Re: [CR]Campagnolo Advice Needed

Example: Framebuilders:Dario Pegoretti
From: "jerrymoos" <>
To: "P. Lynn Miller" <>, "Classic Rendezvous" <>
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Subject: Re: [CR]Campagnolo Advice Needed
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:54:36 -0500

You can't usually fit a 6-speed FW in 120 rear spacing, but SunTour in the early 80's made "Ultra-6" narrow spaced FW's that would fit 6 cogs in 120mm rear spacing. A few others copied the idea. If you don't go bigger than 26 or 28T tops on the large rear cog, you can use the Campy Nuovo Sport derailleurs. You can certainly buy a Campy Nuovo Record or Super Record crankset, but these are expensive. You can buy Campy Grand Sport, Victory, or Triomphe cranks cheaper, but the Victory, Triomphe and some versions of Grand Sport used unique sized chanirings which are now difficult to find in all the sizes you might want. A modern Campy Mirage is relatively inexpensive and chainrings are easily available. It is possible you could add another chainring to the crank on the bike. What kind of crank is it? Note that if you change to a different crankset, and possibly even if you just add a chainring, you will probably need to change the baootom bracket axle or perhaps the whole botom bracket.


Jerry Moos
Houston, TX

----- Original Message -----
From: "P. Lynn Miller"
To: Classic Rendezvous
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 8:14 AM
Subject: [CR]Campagnolo Advice Needed

Good day,

I am in the process of reworking my wife's mixte, which is a Coventry Eagle, a very nice light lugged steel frame made from Tubi Oria Cro-Moly. It currently is a five speed using mostly Simplex parts in the drive train, Maillard? hubs with no name 700C rims, and Wienmann brake levers and side pulls. I am not sure what year it is, but it is a very nice looking and handling bike.

I want to add a chain ring or change the crank set to have 2 chain rings up front. It has 120mm spacing on the rear, so I am not sure what the maximum amount of cogs I can get in that space. I want to use all Campagnolo parts, does not need to be from the same vintage as the frame or even all need to be a certain group. This choice is the result of me picking a bike up along side the road with Campagnolo parts. The frame is too large for anyone in my household but it does have Campagnolo Gran Touring Novou front and rear derailleurs with down tube shifters.

So can anyone tell what groups or vintages to look for that would allow me to build a high quality yet economical bike for her. There seems to be a huge array of groups, names and vintages out there. I planning to replace the parts in this order -

Drivetrain - I have the front and rear derailleur and shifters, need to find the crankset and freewheel. Can I fit a 6 speed in 120mm?

Hubs and rims - Need to source all parts. Since this is mostly a touring bike, what the best spoke count? Front & rear?

Brakes - Levers and callipers - need to source all parts

Also how difference is there practically between 170mm cranks and say 175mm?

Thank you for your time

P. Lynn Miller