Re: [CR]Campagnolo Advice Needed

Example: Racing
From: "P. Lynn Miller" <>
To: "Classic Rendezvous" <>
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Subject: Re: [CR]Campagnolo Advice Needed
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 00:09:01 +1000


I do not know kind of crank it is, but here are the markings on it. On the crank arms, outside - SOLIDA, inside - D6 21 Made in France, on the chainring - Made in France, the BB caps - a capital S, Made in France. So I am going to assume it is Simplex. There looks to be provision for an inside, smaller chainring, but finding one could be a trick. I do not have a problem changing the whole bottom bracket, if I need to.

This is the first time I am going to attempt a complete rebuild, so I appreciate any advice given. I have decided to stay with a 5 speed freewheel, that should make our choices a bit easier.

P. Lynn Miller

----- Original Message -----
From: jerrymoos
To: "P. Lynn Miller"

<> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 11:54 PM Subject: Re: [CR]Campagnolo Advice Needed

> You can't usually fit a 6-speed FW in 120 rear spacing, but SunTour in the
> early 80's made "Ultra-6" narrow spaced FW's that would fit 6 cogs in 120mm
> rear spacing. A few others copied the idea. If you don't go bigger than 26
> or 28T tops on the large rear cog, you can use the Campy Nuovo Sport
> derailleurs. You can certainly buy a Campy Nuovo Record or Super Record
> crankset, but these are expensive. You can buy Campy Grand Sport, Victory,
> or Triomphe cranks cheaper, but the Victory, Triomphe and some versions of
> Grand Sport used unique sized chanirings which are now difficult to find in
> all the sizes you might want. A modern Campy Mirage is relatively
> inexpensive and chainrings are easily available. It is possible you could
> add another chainring to the crank on the bike. What kind of crank is it?
> Note that if you change to a different crankset, and possibly even if you
> just add a chainring, you will probably need to change the baootom bracket
> axle or perhaps the whole botom bracket.
> Regards,
> Jerry Moos
> Houston, TX
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "P. Lynn Miller" <>
> To: "Classic Rendezvous" <>
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 8:14 AM
> Subject: [CR]Campagnolo Advice Needed
> Good day,
> I am in the process of reworking my wife's mixte, which is a Coventry Eagle,
> a very nice light lugged steel frame made from Tubi Oria Cro-Moly. It
> currently is a five speed using mostly Simplex parts in the drive train,
> Maillard? hubs with no name 700C rims, and Wienmann brake levers and side
> pulls. I am not sure what year it is, but it is a very nice looking and
> handling bike.
> I want to add a chain ring or change the crank set to have 2 chain rings up
> front. It has 120mm spacing on the rear, so I am not sure what the maximum
> amount of cogs I can get in that space. I want to use all Campagnolo parts,
> does not need to be from the same vintage as the frame or even all need to
> be a certain group. This choice is the result of me picking a bike up along
> side the road with Campagnolo parts. The frame is too large for anyone in my
> household but it does have Campagnolo Gran Touring Novou front and rear
> derailleurs with down tube shifters.
> So can anyone tell what groups or vintages to look for that would allow me
> to build a high quality yet economical bike for her. There seems to be a
> huge array of groups, names and vintages out there. I planning to replace
> the parts in this order -
> Drivetrain - I have the front and rear derailleur and shifters, need to find
> the crankset and freewheel. Can I fit a 6 speed in 120mm?
> Hubs and rims - Need to source all parts. Since this is mostly a touring
> bike, what the best spoke count? Front & rear?
> Brakes - Levers and callipers - need to source all parts
> Also how difference is there practically between 170mm cranks and say 175mm?
> Thank you for your time
> P. Lynn Miller