Re: [CR]unknown Cinelli headtube logo, LONG REPLY.

(Example: Framebuilders:Dario Pegoretti)

Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 23:56:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: "dave martinez" <dmart84815@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]unknown Cinelli headtube logo, LONG REPLY.
To: TheMaaslands@comcast.net
In-Reply-To: <101820030400.20977.110@comcast.net>
cc: CR List <ClassicRendezvous@bikelist.org>

Hello Steven, I have seen frames decaled as a Cinelli Mod B with this badge. One such frame decaled and badged as a Cinelli B was for sale in Velo Sport back in the mid 80s, I was able to take some pics of it. I believe the folks at VS. truely believed the frame was a Cinelli Mod B. A number of these frames made it to the Bay Area, they were brought in by a fellow visiting Singapore (back in the mid 80s). I found out about these frames from a ad in the misc-garage sale section of the San Jose Mercury News. He listed it as, Items from Singapore and Cinelli bicycle frames... When I got to his house he had about 3 frames left. They were painted Cinelli silver with candy red bands on the seattube and a candy red head tube. The headtube lugs were chrome as well as the semi-sloping crown and the forkends and part of the stays. The lugs looked to be Cinelli, the seatstay attachement was ugly and kinda crude with the seatstay caps flattend against the seatlug. It wasnt the classic fastback,or early 50s style with the seatpost clamp. The frames had the vintage Cinelli downtube, crest, and Mod B decals, this combination made the frames really quite attractive. They did have that unusual badge. At the time, I was excited, yet supicous. Also, I thought that Cinelli Bs only came with flat crowns, yet these had semi sloping crowns (I have since seen at least two authentic Cineli Bs with semi sloping crowns-the same crown thats used on the Riviera). I became convinced that these frames were frauds when I tried to fit wheels in both the front and rear ends, and nothing short of brutal strenght would allow the wheels to be fitted. We walked away from that "Deal". But before we did, the seller showed us "his" bike--- a real Cinelli Mod B with a flat crown, brass badge and the cinell seat cluster...... Hey buddy, want a Rolex? Cheap! Dave Martinez (I'm no Cinelli expert, but I get paid to drive a celeste truck) Fremont Ca. ps. I sent the pics of the cinelli to Spence Wolfe (when he worked at Winning Wheels in Pacific Grove), and he said that it wasnt a cinelli.

TheMaaslands@comcast.net wrote: There is a Cinelli headtube badge for sale on ebay. Check it out at: http://ebay.com/<blah>

Can anybody tell me where thihs fits in era-wise. I am wondering if it is perhaps a repro. Any comments?

-- Steven Maasland Moorestown, NJ _______________________________________________

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