Re: [CR]Ebay outing: Pogliaghi frame shenanigans

Example: Framebuilders:Bernard Carré
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Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 17:16:00 EDT
Subject: Re: [CR]Ebay outing: Pogliaghi frame shenanigans

Charles- While i agree that ebay is indeed a very tricky business, this particular posting does indicate that the bike is from the early 80s, and as well all know that time period is a very grey area as to whom actucually was building Pogs. Frame the paint job, its clear to me that is not one of Sante's efforts. However, what bugs me about this particular bike is that it has only the rear seat-lug chromed, and not the front. Also based, upon the decal design that I have not perosnally seen before (other may have) its my guess that the frmae doesn't even sport an orginal paint job. Hence i agree with you that there are some shenanigans going on, I am just not exactly clear what they might be. cheers, Dave Anderson Cut Bank MT

In a message dated 10/19/2003 4:38:27 AM PST, writes: Check this item...those of you here who haven't yet.. ;><blah> 7&category"681

I find it rather...interesting that the seller quotes extensively from "The Custom Bicycle" on Pogliaghi...but the f/f in question very likely was made some years after Sante had retired--heck, maybe even after he had died.

Does this not seem just a tad deceptive?  I'm not necessarily accusing the seller of mendacity...but this seller seems knowledgeable enough, from his previous offerings, that he would know this f/f dates from after Pogliaghi's sale of his name to others.  Seems to me an uninformed buyer could buy this thinking they were getting one kind of thing, when, in fact, they were getting something else.

Tricky business, in any case.

Charles Andrews
Los Angeles