[CR]Ideor - Is it really a Cinelli ?

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From: "Wayne Jolly" <wjolly@videowave.us>
To: "Jay Sexton" <jvs@sonic.net>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 05:42:35 -0400
Subject: [CR]Ideor - Is it really a Cinelli ?

Jay/List In the November 1977 edition of Bicycling is a very interesting comment in Dick Swann's column "Question Man" on page 64/65. Mr. H.J.Battjes of Palo Alto, CA writes: I have an Ideor. I am told it is circa 1960, near Cinelli's factory, a fine frame. Could you elaborate? Response: This is one of several makers that have appeared in Milan over the last 20 years. Most of these small makers are ex-Cinelli workers; so the stuff should be very good indeed. Dick Swann

The response seems to confirm a link to the Cinelli factory. Has anyone heard about this before? Would anyone agree that the build quality of an Ideor is comparable to Cinelli?

Wayne (It's dark outside where's daylight savings) Jolly in Toronto Canada

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----- Original Message -----
From: Jay Sexton
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: 13 October, 2003 11:33 PM
Subject: [CR]New to the list with Ideor

> Peter,
> Welcome to the list.
> I too HAD an Ideor frame that I stupidly sold for $10.00 (!!) because
> after a repaint I discovered a hole in one seat stay thanks to an
> overzealous paint prep person with a sandblast hose in his hand. This
> was in '75 or '76 down in Southern California in the Long Beach / San
> Pedro area. If the person who bought it would like to sell it back to
> me, I would be eternally grateful :-)
> Jay Sexton
> Sebastopol, CA