Re: [CR]Brooks Pro Select saddle, anyone know?

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Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 09:16:46 -0400
From: "Martin O. Walsh" <mowalsh@erols.com>
To: Larry Osborn <losborn2@wvu.edu>
Subject: Re: [CR]Brooks Pro Select saddle, anyone know?
References: <BBB74E07.F83F%fred@twistcomm.com> <4.0.1.20031020131125.01200c20@gwpop.wvu.edu>
cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

Dear Larry Osborne. and CR list, I confirm Chuck Schmidt's. astute observation of the allen nose tensioner and the the vent holes (three) on the top of the Brooks Pro Select saddle on my two Brooks Pro Select saddles made in 1979 and 1980. All these years and I never noticed the allen tensioner on that first Brooks saddle I bought. I've never had to adjust it......the saddle is resting in the basement awaiting a chance to be reborn when I restore one of my project bicycles. Thanks to Chuck for his many contributions to the list and to Larry "O" for his help with a Raleigh bicycle I have, that I needed to determine its model year. Yours truly, Martin Walsh in Vienna,Va.

Larry Osborn wrote:
> And this just in
> >From deep in my personal e-archives:
>
> At 1:05 PM -0700 6/17/00, I recently acquired a Brooks Professional
> "Select" which
> >were originally made for the Raleigh Racing Team and for a short time, maybe
> >1 1/2 years in '79 and '80, Brooks offered the identical saddle to the
> >public but stopped because of the cost of materials and labor involved
> >(this, according to Elaine O'Donnell, Brooks Sales Dept).
>
> Lost track of who the original poster and other responders were.
> I didn't say it was a complete archive. Just deep.
>
> But I don't remember holes or allen head tensioner on my Select.
> Now I'll have to look in the physical archives. That box is buried REALLY
> deep.
>
> Larry "non-allen head, but plenty of holes in it" Osborn
> Morgantown WV
>
> At 01:24 PM 10/19/03 -0700, you wrote:
> >>From the archives at http://search.bikelist.org:
> >
> >Archive-URL:
> http://search.bikelist.org/getmsg.asp?Filename=classicrendezvous.10206.0652.
> eml
> >Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 17:00:28 -0700
> >From: Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>
> >Subject: Re: [CR]Brooks Pro was Question for the Stronglight fans
> >
> >Eric Elman wrote:
> >>
> >> I don't know what model crankset that is but while you're looking at the
> >> pictures, what kind of saddle is that? I haven't seen a Brooks Pro or Team
> >> Pro (big rivit heads as on this saddle) with 3 venting holes on top.
> >
> >Brooks Select from the late 70s early 80s. Has an allen tensioner in
> >the nose
> >too. Came in a plastic display box with an allen key and a tin of Proofide.
> >
> >Chuck Schmidt
> >SoPas, SoCal
> >
> >"Martin O. Walsh" wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Fred and CR list members
> >> I just bought a bicycle at the Trexlertown swap that had the same saddle
> that
> >> you ask about.The date of mine was 1978,from the T-town swap.
> >> It is imbossed (stamped on the cantle plate) month and last two digits
> for year,
> >> i.e., 8 78 (August 1978).
> >> Inspect the under side near the rear of the saddle for a date code.
> >> The saddle appears much newer than the 1966 date of your Paramount in my
> >> opinion.
> >> They are really nice saddles!
> >> I bought my first Brooks leather saddle (Brooks Pro select) in the
> early 1980's
> >> from Carl Mueller's Bicycle Shop in Baltimore,Md. but it was made in the
> late
> >> 1970's going by the date code.
> >> Please let us know what you hear from the "saddle experts", if you get
> any off
> >> list replies.
> >> Thanks !
> >> Yours truly,
> >> Martin Walsh
> >>
> >> Fredrick Yavorsky wrote:
> >>
> >> > http://www.twistcomm.com/Bikes/66_Paramount/source/p1010023.html
> >> > http://www.twistcomm.com/Bikes/66_Paramount/source/p1010009.html
> >> >
> >> > Speaking of saddles, I'm still hoping to get an opinion on this Brooks
> Pro
> >> > "Select" on the 1966 Paramount that followed me home. Anyone have
> >> > information?
> >> >
> >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> > Fred Yavorsky
> >> > Jenkintown, PA