Re: [CR]Frejus restoration disappointment

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From: "Donald F. Dunstan" <donalddunstan@wtconnect.com>
To: <NortonMarg@aol.com>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
References: <12f.34b13fc5.2ce1bfc2@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Frejus restoration disappointment
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:32:15 -0600


Sooner or later you come to the realization that there really isn't any magic in this obsession we have. It came for me when I worked in a frame shop for 6 months, maybe a little before. Like Jose Ramirez III said about guitar building, "It's a craft", the same applies to bike building. In music the magic is the sound, in cycling, the magic is the ride, which is made up of a bizzillion different sensory stimuli. A ride on that Frejus, with the right combinations of elements, may make it the best ride in recent memory.

Just the same, I like my guitars built with a solid sitka top.

Don Dunstan, son of Floyd and Patricia Dunstan, originally born in Akron, OH, currently living in Winters, TX


----- Original Message -----
From: NortonMarg@aol.com
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 10:29 PM
Subject: [CR]Frejus restoration disappointment



> I've got this old, 1958 to 1960 Frejus Tour de France frame with really...ok
> paint. Way to good to redo just because of the paint, hand striping all over,
> plenty of nicks and scrapes, nothing serious (depending on your definition of
> serious!) but horrible chrome. Not too many worse. So, my solution (I haven't
> ridden it, so I don't even know if I like it or not) was to polish the steel
> where the chrome used to be and have it clear coated.
> The headlugs have polished up nicely, the disappointment I ran into was found
> on polishing the seat stays. I should have said earlier, this is a frame with
> a red Columbus tubing sticker on it. I found what appeared to be a split in
> the left seat stay about 2 inches long. 3/4" or so is filled with brass,
> probably from when the drop out was brazed. So here is this 2" long split. The only
> conclusion I can draw is the frame was built with seamed stays. I know
> Columbus made seamed tubing, at least that is what I presumed when I found seamed
> steerer tubes in my 1950s 1960s Bianchis, but I didn't expect to see it in the
> frame tubes of a frame with a red sticker on it.
> I admit to being a little bit of a snob when it comes to quality of tubing
> (I've built a few frames) and seamed tubing, well...I don't need to say too much
> to this crowd, but I'm disappointed in Frejus.
> I'm going to fix it, I'm going to ride it and objectively see if I like it.
> It may not matter, but it has made a subtle change in my opinion of Frejus, I'm
> sure partly because they were one of my initial inspirations to build frames.
> Then again, I may just get over it.
> Stevan Thomas
> Alameda, CA