[CR]Gluing tires (was re: velox rim tape etc.)

(Example: Racing)

From: "C. Andrews" <chasds@mindspring.com>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 12:26:02 -0800
Subject: [CR]Gluing tires (was re: velox rim tape etc.)

Todd Kuzma wrote, in part:

"My method, for what it's worth, is as follows:

Day One: Apply layer of glue to rim and let cure overnight.

Day Two: Apply three additional layers of glue to rim with one ..."

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I'm not going to denigrate Mr. Kuzma's method of gluing tires, or any other method for that matter...but I must confess to simple bewilderment over all the elaborate procedures people have described, for gluing tires.

I've been touring and racing on sew-ups for over 30 years, and I haven't rolled one yet (knock on wood), although I've flatted plenty.

Tubasti is my glue of choice...I've seen Tubasti stay pliable for over a decade, which means that usually it doesn't have to be scraped off a used rim...

If the rim has a lot of glue on it, I check for brittleness. If the glue is brittle, I remove as much as I can, gently, with a screwdriver, then sand with coarse grit canvas-backed paper, to rough up the surface and remove any glue that's not sticking. Clean with laquer thinner or something similar. Something very volatile in any case, so there's no residue left to interfere with adhesion.

New rims might get one thin coat of glue, to dry overnight, but sometimes not even that.

I just remove the old tire, check the old glue. If it's still pliable, I run a new bead of glue over the old, let set for about 1/2 hour, or until barely tacky, then lay on the new tire. Let dry overnight. Go ride. Never had a problem doing it this way...and while I vowed not to denigrate any other methods, I have to say, I fail to comprehend the necessity for all this elaborate gluing, drying, more glue, and so-on. The whole POINT of glue-on tires--besides the light weight and the great ride--is to be able to get them off quickly in the event of a flat...I've even put used spares on rims with old glue, and within just a few hours the tire and rim have started to bond, just from the blending of the old glue on the tire and the rim.

I've also encountered sew-ups that were glued on rims so thoroughly they could not be removed without the aid of a tire-iron, or some other lever. This seems absurd to me.

This is not to say you couldn't roll a tire using my method, maybe you could, if you really worked at it, or did a very sloppy job in the first place...but it seems highly unlikely you would roll a tire..I never have.

Charles "I ride clinchers only when forced" Andrews SoCal

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