Re: [CR]The ethics of ending auctions early on vintage items on eBay.

(Example: Framebuilders:Doug Fattic)

Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 14:02:38 -0800 (PST)
From: "halbike" <halbike@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]The ethics of ending auctions early on vintage items on eBay.
To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <1ee.16446243.2d1d9eb5@aol.com>


There are A LOT of games being played on ebay. Bidders bid and retract without pentalty -sometimes because other people offer bidders the same item for less, sometimes for BID SHIELDING reasons(see ebay) Lots of Bogus bidders do not pay and ebay only provides the hollow remedy of negative feedback (They do not require a credit card or positive id from bidders as they do from seller). Fees are high and listing fees still have to be paid if the bidder does not pay, easily $5-10 on a quality item. If my auction has reached what I consider a good price and the bidder looks solid or is known to me -I sometimes end and sell for the current price because it is in my best interest-

If you want to bid, bid. If you are playing last miniute snipe games you might get left out--
Paul Genaro
Sidney NY


--- OROBOYZ@aol.com wrote:


> I just had a question from a list member about this
> (troubling in my opinion)
> tendency of late for sellers of old bike parts
> stopping auctions to accept a
> (presumably high) offer from a buyer, thereby
> nipping in the bud all standing
> offers from others.
>
> I have copied my response below, in order to elicit
> your opinions and
> comments. I think it is on topic because so many of
> us find the bits and pieces for
> our old bikes through eBay.......
>
>
> << I (believe) that canceling an eBay auction
> before it is allowed to run
> it's course is unethical on the part of the seller,
> and by logical extension,
> to the buyer.
>
> In my opinion, when one offers an item for sale in
> an eBay auction, that
> constitutes an agreement to enter into a
> pre-established defined system of trade,
> a set process, agreed upon "terms of sale".
>
> To allow someone (in this case, you) to make an
> offer that changes those
> agreed upon term or conditions. and remove all the
> bidders efforts to jointly bid,
> is a violation of this agreement and of ethics. If
> the other bidders were
> made aware of the "behind the scenes" offer and
> given a chance to beat it, that
> would be fair. But then we would be right back in an
> auction context as eBay
> allows.
>
> Ending an auction to accept a particular person's
> offer, to the detriment and
> elimination of all other bidders, eliminates the
> promised competition to buy
> at a highest bid. It simply is not playing fair.
>
> I personally would cease bidding on items placed for
> sale by sellers who
> ended auctions early to accept out-of-auction
> offers.
>
> That's my opinion.....
>
> Dale Brown
> Greensboro, NC
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