[CR]asbestos in automobile brakes.......don't foget Modolo pads as well


Example: Framebuilders:Doug Fattic

From: Bikerdaver@aol.com
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 23:09:52 EST
Subject: [CR]asbestos in automobile brakes.......don't foget Modolo pads as well
To: mark@bulgier.net, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org


Say there, I have to weigh in on the side of Mark. Chrysotile asbestos, or pretty much any asbestos fibers are basically one sure path to mesothelioma type cancer. The other really neat thing to do, is to smoke cigarettes in combination with asbestos ladden air. Probably the quickest path to feel a respirator-tube spasm in your throat during your last few minutes of what would be a rather unfortunately preventable, yet plenty painful way to die. Case in point: how many asbestos miners that smoke cigartettes have you seen ride a bike, let alone how many are on the CR list? Controversial? Not with me, but then again, I haven't seen, read about, or heard of any mesothelioma survivors. But wait, it gets better. Older MODOLO brakepads contained a fair share of asbestos in them. Not that anybody rides a bike with their nose and mouth close to their brakes, but combine down-town bicycle riding, (like a messenger) pre-asbestos ban brake pads, mixed in a wonderful cocktail of partially burned and unburned petroleum products and you are set to go. Still more depressing, mesothelioma has been shown to occur in people 30 years AFTER their intial asbestos exposure.....and we thought that OSHA, EPA, & CPSC were a bunch of no good kill-joys. Cheers, Dave Anderson Cut Bank MT p.s. the modolo pads worked very good and so did the Campy tan fiber pads, but I have no idea of what the Campy ones were made of.

In a message dated 2/14/03 11:16:46 AM PST, mark@bulgier.net writes: Louis Schulman wrote [heavily snipped]:
> Chrysotile asbestos, which is the commonly used form, breaks down in
> the lungs, and has not been shown to cause disease from normal
> exposures.

Apparently this is controversial. I found this abstract of a study published in the American Journal of Industrial Medicine, titled "CHRYSOTILE ASBESTOS IS THE MAIN CAUSE OF PLEURAL MESOTHELIOMA" [their shouting, not mine] Sample quote: "Studies indicated that: chrysotile asbestos is a potent cause of pleural mesothelioma" http://infoventures.com/osh/abs/asbs0006.html

Since it is so OT, maybe we should just leave it as "controversial" and not try to prove one side or the other here.