Re: [CR]Fiorelli track bike on eBay

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Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:44:15 -0500
Subject: Re: [CR]Fiorelli track bike on eBay
From: Richard M Sachs <>

e-MONKEY if you noticed, the stays are inserted a minimal amount. they are 'barely' inserted! perhaps that was the concession to 'pursuit frames-ish' weight savings. perhaps. maybe. perhaps. maybe. perhaps.maybe.etctera. etctera! it's really hard to qualify 'style' but i feel the focus put on these dropouts is a style issue. how different is this than all those raleigh team 753s in which the stays and forks are not brass-brazed shut? or or the french frames that have scalloped stays but the brass is not fully drawn to the edge of the scallop? do we consider that 'style' as 'unfinished'? e-RICHIE chester, ct

Brandon Ives <> writes: On Saturday, March 15, 2003, at 08:26 PM, Richard M Sachs wrote:
> this frame looks correct and fine to me. chain and seat stays are
> tapered to a smaller diameter; it IS a pursuit frame after all.

Richard maybe it's just me, but what you say is just my point. They used the lightest stuff available at the time trying to get the weight down and then just tossed in some big ass dropouts. It's not so much the look of the thing that bugs me it's like they just went with what was easy. I'd think that a trimmed down set of those DOs would save almost as much weight as using PL over the SL tubeset. Of course maybe they just liked the square really angular look of them. They were the company that used the Raleigh style tubular fork crown on their high-end bikes after all.