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Subject: [CR]Re: Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 3, Issue 100

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> 1. Re: UPS
> 2. Re: Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 3, Issue94 #1 (Dave Abraham)
> 3. Re: Fwd: "Like Phoenix rising from the ashes...."
> 4. Interesting Cinelli seat on Ebay (Brandon Ives)
> 5. Re: Interesting Cinelli seat on Ebay (Chuck Schmidt)
> 6. Is it a 26.2 or a 26.4? Question of French variability?
> (Paul Williams)
> 7. FW: [CR]Interesting Cinelli seat on Ebay (nick zatezalo)
> 8. Sand the chrome first (was:Re: [CR]Threading Simplex drop-outs
> 9. Legnano for sale (matteo brandi)
> 10. Re: Is it a 26.2 or a 26.4? Question of French variability?
> 11. Re: Is it a 26.2 or a 26.4? Question of French variability?
> (Jerry & Liz Moos)
> 12. Interesting bike in Germany (Mara & Steven Maasland)
> 13. Re: Interesting Cinelli seat on Ebay
> 14. Hetchins outing (Dale B. Phelps)
> 15. Re: Nuovo Lambert and Scarfacci
> 16. Richard Sachs Sponsoring New Team (Angel M Garcia)
> 17. Additional Racelite axle dimensions (Fred Rafael Rednor)
> 18. RE: Lambert bikes - 2003 (Cohen, Robert K., MR.)
> 19. Re: Fixed gear gearing (Mark A. Perkins)
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> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 19:07:31 EST
> From: DTSHIFTER@aol.com
> To: wspokes@penn.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]UPS
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> Walt,
>
> Just another reason why I switched to FedEx Ground about two years ago.
> Haven't looked back!
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Chuck Brooks
> Malta, NY
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 19:33:12 -0500 (EST)
> From: "Dave Abraham" <dave@hokiespokes.com>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Re: Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 3, Issue94 #1
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> Gear-cable stop, Campagnolo EC-RE001, aluminum, downtube shifter boss
> mount, 1 1/8" diameter, double stop, fits round downtubes
>
> HTH,
>
> Dave Abraham
> New Wheel ~ Hokie Spokes
> Beautiful SW VA
> voice: (540) 552-7765 (or) 731-1211
> FAX: 552-7768 (or) 731-0666
> "Treating every bike like our own.."
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>
> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 15:05:10 -0500
> From: Vincent Connelly <connell1@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
> To: "classicrendezvous@bikelist.org" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Campag down tube double cable stop
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> Does anyone on the list have a Campagnolo clamp-on double cable stop
> they are willing to sell/ part with? It's for use on the downtube around
> the point where shifter bosses would mount. It would make the use of
> bar-ends much, much easier. Standard 1 1/8" diameter, I believe.
> Rivendell has a generic band, but an original Campagnolo would be better
> for this restoration. What is part number?
>
> Thanks to all for any help-
> Vince (two pints of Guinness for me tonight) Connelly
> Baltimore, Maryland
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>
> ------------------------------
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> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 19:51:08 EST
> From: RaleighPro531@aol.com
> To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Fwd: "Like Phoenix rising from the ashes...."
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> http://lambertbicycles.com/specs.html
> 48-60 c-t?
> No tall people in that part of England?
>
> Pete Geurds
> Douglassville, PA
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 16:59:03 -0800
> From: Brandon Ives <monkeylad@mac.com>
> To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Interesting Cinelli seat on Ebay
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> I've only seen one of these before. What's the story with this seat?
> It looks really cool even if the leather needs to be re-glued. I'm the
> high bidder right now but feel free to bid on it.
> <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/
> eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=22693&item=2717539657&rd=1>
> enjoy,
> Brandon"monkeyman"Ives
> SB, CA
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 17:33:59 -0700
> From: Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>
> To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Interesting Cinelli seat on Ebay
> Message-ID: <3E77BACD.B4560F3B@earthlink.net>
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> Brandon Ives wrote:
> >
> > I've only seen one of these before. What's the story with this seat?
> > It looks really cool even if the leather needs to be re-glued. I'm the
> > high bidder right now but feel free to bid on it.
>
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2717539657
>
> It's an "L". It was common here in Southern California in the 1980s.
> Has forged aluminum rails and came with a longer replacement aluminum
> allen bolt for the single bolt Campagnolo Nuovo Super Record seat post.
> The rails were thicker than the normal steel wire saddle rails hence the
> longer replacement bolt provided.
>
> A few years ago Euro-Asia Imports (wholesale to the trade only) ordered
> a bunch and they were remade (reissued) in a lot of colors. Very cool
> and desirable (only in my opinion of course).
>
> Chuck Schmidt
> L.A.
> http://www.velo-retro.com (Reprints of Cinelli catalogs)
>
> .
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 20:44:50 -0500
> From: "Paul Williams" <castell5@sympatico.ca>
> To: "Classic Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Is it a 26.2 or a 26.4? Question of French variability?
> Message-ID: <003c01c2edb9$21a83680$4df1fea9@queensu.ca>
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> Hi folks,
>
> I sent these queries to Eric Elman and John Quigley with whom I have =
> been corresponding re. my PX10E. I got helpful responses but thought =
> that I would also put the queries to the rest of the list - especially =
> the Francophiles.
>
> What have you others found to be the standard diameter of the seat-tube =
> on PX10s or comparable French bikes? I had assumed that it would be 26.4 =
> and each time I measure with the micrometer I get a slightly different =
> measurement. I now think that it is 26.2, in fact. I certainly can't get =
> a 26.4 post in the tube. Does 26.2 seem right? If so is the alloy =
> Simplex post from Bicycle Classics suitable? Are there any others out =
> there that would do - an $80 or $90 dollar period-correct Simplex is not =
> presently on the cards!
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 20:41:29 -0500
> From: "nick zatezalo" <nickzz@mindspring.com>
> To: "CR CHAT" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: FW: [CR]Interesting Cinelli seat on Ebay
> Message-ID: <NABBIBOKINKKENINGEBAEEFMCKAA.nickzz@mindspring.com>
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> I have the same saddle that has the Cinelli flying C logo printed
> on the leather.Mine was originally on an 83 Pogliaghi.
>
> Nick Zatezalo
> Atlanta,Ga
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org]On Behalf Of Chuck
> Schmidt
> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 7:34 PM
> To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Interesting Cinelli seat on Ebay
>
>
> Brandon Ives wrote:
> >
> > I've only seen one of these before. What's the story with this seat?
> > It looks really cool even if the leather needs to be re-glued. I'm the
> > high bidder right now but feel free to bid on it.
>
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2717539657
>
> It's an "L". It was common here in Southern California in the 1980s.
> Has forged aluminum rails and came with a longer replacement aluminum
> allen bolt for the single bolt Campagnolo Nuovo Super Record seat post.
> The rails were thicker than the normal steel wire saddle rails hence the
> longer replacement bolt provided.
>
> A few years ago Euro-Asia Imports (wholesale to the trade only) ordered
> a bunch and they were remade (reissued) in a lot of colors. Very cool
> and desirable (only in my opinion of course).
>
> Chuck Schmidt
> L.A.
> http://www.velo-retro.com (Reprints of Cinelli catalogs)
>
> .
> To: Bob Reid <bob.reid2@virgin.net>, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Cc: StuartMX4@aol.com
> Subject: [CR]Additional Racelite axle dimensions
> Message-ID: <20030319052011.81141.qmail@web11903.mail.yahoo.com>
> In-Reply-To: <BA9C8687.2C56%bob.reid2@virgin.net>
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> Message: 17
>
> > What you appear to have are standard (i.e. Not Raleigh)!
> > CEI/BSC sized front
> > hub spindles, but they should be, and probably are 26tpi
> > (time to find someone with thread gauges).
> >
> > BSC / CEI threaded spindles were 5/16" x 26tpi (7.938 x
> > 0.977 pitch) for the Front and 3/8" x 26tpi (9.525 x 0.977
> > pitch) for the Rear.
>
> Bob,
> Thanks for the information. In fact, I measured the
> threads' pitch with a set of gauges, which is why it seemed so
> perplexing. Although you've convinced me that 26 tpi is the
> intended pitch, the 26tpi gauge certainly did not give a
> perfect fit. For the short section of axle that can be
> measured, I'm not certain it fit any better than the 1mm gauge.
> It was definitely a better fit than the 25tpi, though.
> Perhaps the problem is that the axle's threads are slightly
> distorted from being mounted in a frame.
> The truly unusual measurement is the across-the-flats size
> of the axle nuts. It appears to be 13.5mm or more likely,
> 17/32". Is that a Whitworth size?
> Best regards,
> Fred Rednor - Arlington, Virginia
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 07:21:51 +0100
> From: "Cohen, Robert K., MR." <Robert.Cohen@cmtc.7atc.army.mil>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]RE: Lambert bikes - 2003
> Message-ID: <5A0AE02E71214A4EB7A66D4711DCFE729C55D1@bava02m1hfss000.cmtc.7atc.army.mil>
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> Regarding the use of 531 in the Lambert frames - has anyone asked the
> question yet - I mean Reynolds announced last year, no more 531.
>
> Did Lambert manage to buy up all the remaining stock?
>
> Bob (just curious) Cohen
> Hohenfels (still frozen), Germany
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 23:22:37 -0800
> From: "Mark A. Perkins" <bicyclemark@juno.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Fixed gear gearing
> Message-ID: <20030318.232238.-254529.3.bicyclemark@juno.com>
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> Friends:
>
> I currently have a 44 x 16 set up on my track bike, the one I ride
> regularly.
>
> Incidentally, when I first joined the San Jose Bicycle Club in '76 they
> told me that everyone who participates in their club training races had
> to use gears that were restricted to lower gears. I don't remember what
> the maximum gearing was, but I still have a 48 big ring on my Klein, and
> a 13 max on the freewheel, which I believe was within the allowed range
> (maybe it was a 14?, or a 93" gear maximum). It was intended to force
> riders to learn to spin. I resisted, because I had been dropped in road
> races because (I thought) I didn't have a big 52 or 54 tooth chainring
> like everyone else, but in reality I didn't know how to spin, yet. But
> once I got used to it, I never went back to using anything larger than a
> 48 chainring on any bike that I ride on a regular basis, except for the
> 56 on my tandem. I use a 44 on my Jack Taylor curved tube, which is my
> time trial bike, and which is only a 7-speed with a small cog of 12 teeth
> on the rear.
>
> This is how I remember the gearing I use: 52 x 14 = 100.3" gear, which
> we all know was standard on most bikes in the '70's; 48 x 13 = 99.7"; &
> 44 x 12 = 99.0", all of these combinations are within 1.3 gear inches of
> each other. So when you see that smaller ring on my bike, don't assume
> I'm using really low gears. I do however, use a 48 x 12 = 108", on my
> regular road bike these days, and that sucker can really fly!
>
> If you think that's absurd, then keep reading. Other than my significant
> improvements on the track, I really had no idea how much it had helped my
> riding. Then one day riding in the Sierra foot hills, with me with my 48
> tooth ring, and everyone else using at least a 52, and one muscular
> weight lifter guy with something like a 54 or 55. I hadn't ridden much
> in the area for the past few years, and didn't feel handicapped at all.
> Then the big gear guy made his jump right where the downhill grade got a
> lot steeper and faster. He always liked to drop back slightly and wind
> that big gear up before making the pass. When he went around me, my
> track skills helped me to quickly and smoothly jump right onto his wheel.
> He did everything he could to shake me, but every time he looked over
> his shoulder, there I was, smiling. Spinning like crazy. I don't think
> I could have passed him, but he couldn't drop me no matter what he tried.
>
> My point is that spinning is a good thing, especially when you really
> learn how to do it right. And a track bike will help that happen better
> than anything I know of. Especially when you don't use a brake. Just
> MHO, but it worked and still works for me.
>
> Cheers everyone,
>
> "Bicycle Mark" Perkins
> Fresno Cycling Club - Historian
> Fresno, California, U.S.A.
>
>
> On Tue, 18 Mar 2003 14:18:03 -0800 "Craig Fenstermaker"
> <cfenstermaker@cryocor.com> writes:
> >
> >
> >
> > In this recent thread regarding stopping fixed gear bikes several
> > people have mentioned their choice of gearing for road use. It
> > sounds like everyone is using a higher gear then me. I started using
> > a fixed wheel for road riding in about 1973. The old timers that
> > coached us advocated a 63" gear (42x18). I've stuck with that
> > through my 14 year racing career and the 16 years since. What do you
> > guys ride?
> >
> > Jamie Swan - Northport, N.Y.
> >
> > Craig replies
> > 42 X 16 which often seems too much on my hilly commute.
> > Anyone got a 3/32" 17 cog for sale?
> >
> > craig g. fenstermaker
> > c/o cryocor inc.
> > 9717 pacific heights blvd.
> > san diego, ca 92121
> > 858.909.2209 voice
> > 858.909.2230 fax