Re: [CR]Japanese bikes rant!

(Example: Framebuilders:Rene Herse)

Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 22:06:29 -0500
To: Brandon Ives <monkeylad@mac.com>, "Jerry & Liz Moos" <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
From: "ADP" <aphillips9@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Japanese bikes rant!
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cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

I'm glad my memory served me right!

I *knew* the ones that I remembered at the high end bike shop where I first saw a Koga Miyata were supposed to be Japanese!

Ann

At 06:45 PM 3/20/2003 -0800, Brandon Ives wrote:
>Here's the factory in The Netherlands.
><http://www.europafietser.iweb.be/en/reports/report17.html>
>I haven't been inside the factory personally, so maybe the frames are sent
>bare to the factory and finished there. This would be different from what
>I was told by the Amsterdam shops. One of the shops was really excited
>about the fact that they were built in The Netherlands.
>Of course this wouldn't be the first time the shops didn't have the whole
>story. I guess it adds another place I need to visit when I go see
>Baron's place in 6 months.
>thanks,
>Brandon"monkeyman"Ives
>SB, CA
>
>On Thursday, March 20, 2003, at 06:19 PM, Jerry & Liz Moos wrote:
>>My understanding is that Koga was a Dutch company bought by Miyata some
>>years ago. I think most Koga-Miyatas were built in Japan, but designed and
>>speced for the European market. I bought a Koga-Miyata frame cheap when
>>they were clearing out the last lugged frames in the late 90's. It's just a
>>bit on the heavy side for a pro quality frame, but rides and looks great.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Jerry Moos
>>Houston, TX
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Brandon Ives" <monkeylad@mac.com>
>>To: "ADP" <aphillips9@mindspring.com>
>>Cc: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>>Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 12:38 PM
>>Subject: Re: [CR]Japanese bikes rant!
>>
>>
>>>On Thursday, March 20, 2003, at 10:01AM, ADP <aphillips9@mindspring.com>
>>wrote:
>>>>Take another look at the Koga Miyatas
>>>>and the Fujis. If you all don't want 'em, well more for me!
>>>
>>>As a big fan of Japanese bikes I was surprised to find out that the
>>Koga-Miyata's are built just outside of Amsterdam in The Netherlands.
>>The
>>way I understand the story is that Miyata's are built in Asia and the
>>Koga-Miyata's in Europe. On the keepers of the frame angle Koga-Miyata made
>>an anniversary frame a couple years back that was as clean and sexy as any
>>other I'd seen. Anyone else see this frame, with it's great chrome lugs?
>>>enjoy,
>>>Brandon"monkeyman"Ives
>>>SB, CA
>>>++++++++++++++++++++
>>>Nobody can do everything,
>>>but if everybody did something
>>>everything would get done.
>>>--Gil Scott-Heron--
>>>++++++++++++++++++++