Re: [CR]Road bike Crank Bolt Circle vs. Performance

(Example: Framebuilders:Alberto Masi)

Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 14:50:08 -0800
Subject: Re: [CR]Road bike Crank Bolt Circle vs. Performance
To: r cielec <teaat4p@yahoo.com>
From: "Brandon Ives" <monkeylad@mac.com>
In-Reply-To: <20030322214141.51278.qmail@web41003.mail.yahoo.com>
cc: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>

On Saturday, March 22, 2003, at 01:41 PM, r cielec wrote:
> I only have experience road riding 144 bolt circle (NR). Is flex a
> problem with 110 and smaller bolt circle for road cranks?

Nope. I actually prefer 110 because of the ring options. I also think the TA pattern is just fine too and have never had flex issues. Flex really doesn't get to be much of a problem until you get above 58 tooth rings. When I was working for Bike Friday this was something we were always thinking about and tested extensively. Shifting starts to degrade at about 58 teeth with standard rings. One one of by bikes I use a 62 tooth Paragon Machine Works ring on a first generation Shimano 600 130mm BCD crank. The small ring is a 50 and I have no problems what so ever shifting. Maybe Brian B. will chime in here since he likes BIG RINGS. . . what would Freud say?
> I ride in 52 - 54 rings (benefit of years of cross-country running)
> so, chain ring flex is a concern.

It shouldn't be a concern unless you're using cheap rings or shifting too hard. Rings like the Campagnolo SR rings without the bottom webbing are much less stiff than the overbuilt NR rings. Stepping out on a limb I'm going to say that newer rings are vastly superior to the classic ones. The newer rings are thinner, lighter, and just as stiff as the old one. I think it comes down the the alloys today are better. Some are going to say that they just don't look right on a classic crank. I'd say your question is a performance one not one, not one of classic parts.

On a different note it's interesting that you push big gears. I was a competitive runner for about 10 years (father was a college CC coach) and I'm a spinner. My spin didn't start to come down until I stopped running seriously 12 years ago. I'm a strider when I run and I think my legs find the smooth circles of spinning closer to a natural leg motion than mashing. But hey we're all different machines and what works for one doesn't work for others. good luck, Brandon"monkeyman"Ives SB, CA