Re: [CR]Re: [NBC] Riding with headsets, listening to music, is against the law. ( see l


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From: "John Everett" <jeverett3@earthlink.net>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 17:08:27 -0600
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: [NBC] Riding with headsets, listening to music, is against the law. ( see l
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Oops...don't know how this wound up on classicrendezvous; it was meant for the Naperville Bicycle Club's email list. :-)

On 27 Mar 2003 at 13:38, John Everett wrote:
> On 27 Mar 2003 at 11:37, Trampel, Dan wrote:
>
> > Mike- I couldn't disagree with you more. And if you check the code, the
> > restriction is to MOTOR vehicles, NOT bicycles. I ride both with and
> > without and it doesn't deter your ability to hear any more than wind noise
> > does IF you are using over the ear sets that lay across your ear as opposed
> > to in-ear sets. I find that visual attention is much more acute and
> > necessary than the hearing aspect for safety......especially since
> > motorcycle helmets severly restrict noise levels and continue to get quiter
> > and quiter each year. I don't mean to start a firestorm of controversy on a
> > subject that always seem to incite it, but let's not go out of our way to
> > "legislate" our opinions on others as we try to increase, not lessen, the
> > ridership in the club. Thanks.
>
> Dan:
>
> There may be cyclists who won't join NBC because we require
> helmets. If our main interest is increasing ridership perhaps we should
> consider dropping this rule.
>
> While it may indeed be true that "motorcycle helmets severly restrict
> noise levels and continue to get quiter and quiter each year" (or even
> quieter and quieter), we're not riding motorcycles. As you know when
> cycling in a group verbal signals are regularly passed between riders.
> "Slowing", "Hole", "Flat!", "Car Back", "Glass", etc., are frequently
> heard. Notwithstanding my earlier comment about deaf cyclists, verbal
> communication is important.
>
> There are cycling courtesies to be observed such as, "No riding on
> aerobars in a group". I think riding with headsets in a group, if not
> blatantly dangerous is awfully rude. The law doesn't require wearing a
> helmet, yet NBC does. Perhaps we should have a rational discussion
> about adding this to our list of rules-of-the-road.
>
>
> jeverett3@earthlink.net (John V. Everett)