Brandon "Mischief Maker/Classic Curator" Ives- Your brief snippet characterizing Richard's frames is too far from the truth to not respond. Having previously worked in the shop where his frames are painted, I've seen over 10 years worth of Richard Sachs frames up close and personal, and I'd say they all looked "classic" to me. Your use of the term oversized here is a stretch, as the only tube Richard consistently uses as oversized would be the 1 1/8 inch top tube vs. the old school 1 inch--not so oversized in my opinion, but suitable for most riders, and for a few, I'm sure he's got some 1 inch lugs as I think he alludes to below. His frames are so classic looking, I can't even recall how often he's used straight 1 1/4 down tubes on his road bikes, if ever. And even if he did, his frames consistently evoke the best in the "classic" sense combined with a level of craftsmanship and taste unmatched. He's not America's foremost classic custom framebuilder for nothing. Look at his frames M'boy! Joe Starck, Sun Prairie, Wisconsin Richard M Sachs <richardsachs@juno.com> wrote: snipped: writes: "...Take e-richie's frames for example, he uses oversized tubing on all(?) his frames. I'm sure he gets flak from people that want a classic looking bike."
no flak taken here. when the two folks each year that want otherwise, i use the 'classic' parts. yes-the 'classic' parts... everything is in stock. e-RICHIE chester, ct
On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 08:56:58 -0800 Brandon Ives
writes:
> Too each their own, but let me lay down why I like it. I find a
> large
> percentage of bikes, classic bikes included, very boring. I really
>
> appreciate builders who 'think outside of the box.' Building a bike
> is
> not rocket science and I think just about anybody on this list could
>
> make their own. Anyway, I think people spend too much time looking
> at
> fancy lugs and not thinking about the look or design of the rest of
>
> the frame. There are tons of folk that just build the same frame
> over
> and over. . . and over.
>
> If a builder is willing to break with tradition that gives them
> bonus
> points in my book. Take e-richie's frames for example, he uses
> oversized tubing on all(?) his frames. I'm sure he gets flak from
> people that want a classic looking bike. But he was willing to step
>
> away from tradition and built using oversized tubes. Rene Herse
> looked
> at what was around him and said, 'I can do better' and he did in
> many
> cases. I like touring frames that have racks brazed on because it
> shows that the builder is thinking of how the bike is going to be
> used.
>
> In the case of the Strawberry seat binder it's a much better way of
>
> binding the seatpost that previous methods. Remember all the aero
> bikes that just used a screw into the seatpost. It would scar the
> post
> and also not hold it very well either. Also the bike just looks
> clean
> to me and I like wishbone monostays. Again to each their own, and
> the
> fewer people that like bikes I like the easier it is for me to get
> them.
> ciao,
> Brandon"monkeyman"Ives
> pedals to a different drummer
> in Santa Barbara, Calif
>
> On Friday, March 28, 2003, at 07:08 AM, Grant McLean wrote:
>
> > List,
> >
> > Just zipping up my flame retardant gear here....
> >
> > I don't get it. That seat stay "treatment" seems entirely
> > disproportionate for a frame that large. I understand
> > it's their signature move, but looks like it was left in
> > the microwave too long. Goofy seat post binder aside,
> > I don't see what else makes this frame drool worthy.
> > The fork is ugly too.
> >
> > Grant McLean
> > Toronto.Ca
> > duck and cover!
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