Re: [CR]Re:Merckx, Masi, DeRosa

Example: Framebuilders:Rene Herse

Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 21:36:32 -0500
Subject: Re: [CR]Re:Merckx, Masi, DeRosa
From: Richard M Sachs <>

snipped from below: "...but until I see an undisputable example of each I have to disagree with you..."

oh brian, you're such a big boo. i have a stack of photos showing a 1970 italian gc with the same 'cool' decals as on my three1971 italian gc's and the 1970 has flat seatstay caps. these are color prints given to me by the original buyer/owner along with a xerox of his original invoice from the sale consumated at the Vigorelli. the owner came here for a visit about 7 years ago and, upon return to his home, he sent me about 8 pics. i don't have a scanner, but i do have the prints. e-RICHIE chester, ct

On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 17:41:24 -0800 Brian Baylis <> writes: Richie,

I've seen LOTS of Masi GC's and Specials but I've never seen a GC with flat stay caps or an Special with fluted ones that still had original paint and transfers on it. I've seen both as repaints with incorrect decals on a few occassions. The only possibility of either one would have to be during the transition between the Special and GC. There are a few other traits that are specific to one or the other that can also help classify each frame if it is no longer original. I'm open to the possibility of what you suggest; but until I see an undisputable example of each I have to disagree with you, will all due respect, of course.

Anyone have an example of a genuine original Masi special with fluted stay caps or a genuine Gran Criterium with flat caps?? Like very much to see them. Until then, I'm sticking with what I know to be true so far.

Brian Baylis La Mesa, CA Masis comming out of my butt. Sure beats monkeys!