Re: [CR]Cinelli's are rough? - Who is making "rough" bikes thesedays?


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To: chuckschmidt@earthlink.net
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 14:50:37 -0500
Subject: Re: [CR]Cinelli's are rough? - Who is making "rough" bikes thesedays?
From: Richard M Sachs <richardsachs@juno.com>
cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

chuckie asked: "What would I buy if I was in the market for that special hand-built steel bike? Not something with investment castings. I would want it to have the most sweat equity possible." i say: jeezuz h christ, chuckie. there are many options. brian makes them, peter makes them, i make them. you know all this. don't be difficult. for about $3000 i could tighten you up with a nice little beauty with 70s columbus or reynolds pipes, lugs from nervex, prugnat, bocama, bozzi, guinticiclo, and simplex or campafnolo period correct dropouts. i'll make you a deal; my sweat. your bucks.

and chuckie ALSO added: "Did I just hear someone say, "But that's not modern framebuilding; it's inefficient"? Exactamundo!!!!!!!!!!! i say: nice use of exclamation points. "To surpass the Master is to repay the debt" e-RICHIE chester, ct

On Sat, 08 Mar 2003 10:38:37 -0700 Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net> writes:
> Richard M Sachs wrote:
> >
> > this isn't apples and oranges. at the core of the past two day's
> > threads are issues about 1) modern framebuilding versus frame-
> > building that was modern a looong time ago, 2) the virtues of
> > doing something by hand versus designing it by hand and then
> > having it 'produced', either by assistants or mechanically,
> > 3) whether people still do things the 'old' way with sweat equity
> > and the like...
>
> What would I buy if I was in the market for that special hand-built
> steel bike? Not something with investment castings. I would want
> it to
> have the most sweat equity possible.
>
> Did I just hear someone say, "But that's not modern framebuilding;
> it's
> inefficient"? Exactamundo!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> And Richie, if you say one more time "Show Me The Money!" I'm gonna
> hurl, Dude.

>

> Chuck Schmidt

> L.A.

>

> .