Re: [CR]What the heck is ART, anyway? (was 2 cents...)


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Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 14:29:25 -0800 (PST)
From: joe starck <joestarck2003@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]What the heck is ART, anyway? (was 2 cents...)
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
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Stephen- So, the thinkers on this planet are mentally il, the non-thinkers sane? Methinks we're now off topic on this list. Joe Starck, Sun Prairie, Wisconsin Stephen Barner <steve@sburl.com> wrote:"...This touches a nerve with me. Now, I realize we've got art as a noun, and art as a verb, but Ithink that a great deal of what we currently call art is really expressionof mental illness, and it is thought provoking only to others who are alsomentally ill,..."

Steve Barner, who always cleans up his paint spatters when he's done, in Bolton, Vermont.


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Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 11:46:58 -0800 (PST)
From: joe starck
To: Wornoutguy@aol.com
Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR]MY 2 cents on workmanship and I need help with a rim


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THIS IS THE WAY IT IS: ART is a thougth-provoking intellectual achievement, no matter what the medium. CRAFT is something you hang on your wall because it goes nicely with the kitchen counter top. Joe Starck, Sun Prairie, Wisconsin Wornoutguy@aol.com wrote:First: Who knows when Scheeren Weltmeister rims were on bikes and what hubs are appropriate? Those rims are sooo light are there any modern rims that light? Second: Who said bikes are a work of art - an ugly bike can be just as functional as a beautiful bike - bikes as far as I know don't hang in any art museums so if someone is building them to ride them then a few file marks don't amount to a hill of beans.

Hey frame builders do any of you do this for the recognition in the art community or do you do this to pay the bills?

Just my two cents

Sam DiBartolomeo
Riverside CA