Re: [CR]Guitars and other off topic crap

(Example: Racing:Roger de Vlaeminck)

From: "Richard Rose" <>
To: "brucerobbins" <>, <>
References: <008101c3352d$60d9e900$d54528d5@bruce>
Subject: Re: [CR]Guitars and other off topic crap
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 20:20:24 -0400

Yikes! Bruce, buddy, you misunderstand. Let me preface by admitting that I am sipping a Laphroaig. How is that for irony? For the record, I did not start any of the controversial threads. I am just sympathetic to the "non narrow-minded". I do not want to discuss the PW paint job, I just like to know about such things. It was an example only. The same way some like to know who "made" their Masi. Many on this list consider fine bicycles to be some sort of an art form. If that is the case, you cannot limit the discussion to the finished product while ignoring the process. On the other hand, if the things are just bikes - "things" with no heart & no soul - well then you are correct. Lets get back to really meaty discussions like gum hoods. Richard (man this is good scotch) Rose, Toledo, Ohio

----- Original Message -----
From: brucerobbins
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 8:05 PM
Subject: [CR]Guitars and other off topic crap

Can't we cut the philosophy bollocks here? The list is about old bikes and not about what was in the minds of the men who put them together. The framebuilders on this list are all great, talented individuals but, and I say this with a lot of respect here, I don't think they merit an in-depth discussion-or even a shallow one-about their inspiration. If you want to get that anal, join the framebuilders list.

Vince Connelly and Richard Rose should do the decent thing and have a nice, wee off-list discussion about guitars, inspiration or whatever and spare the rest of us the from their philosophising. The idea that we should discuss what inspired Peter Weigle to pick a particular paint scheme is one of the most ridiculous suggestions I've read on this list. And as for Vince's query about the address for the "Classic photos and discussion of my old neighbor Rebecca Twigg" list, it's the email address of whoever else wants to discuss it with you.

I get really pissed off when someone asks a pertinent question and doesn't g et an answer even though I suspect there are people out there who could provide one and yet some airy-fairy thread about guitars or the workings of some Masi guy's mind merit a disproportionate amount of analysis.

If that's narrow-minded, as E-Ritchie suggested, then I'm in the narrow-minded camp with Chuck-and glad to be there.

Bruce, who freely admits he shouldn't have had that third, keyboard-loosening glass of red (Californian!) wine