Re: [CR]ebay seller hiding material defects- responsible for warning others???

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From: "Steve Neago" <>
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Subject: Re: [CR]ebay seller hiding material defects- responsible for warning others???
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 14:45:16 -0400
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Hi Dave,

I am merely expressing a little frustration about some ebay sellers who abuse the internet to make a quick sale on what they deem is a vintage bike. You will find in the CR archives that I have always believed in discussing the facts about a problem to help warn others. There are no sour grapes here with the seller that I do not know. I only responded to Mark Poore's discussion on why some ebay sellers do not include detailed or enlarged pics.

Regards, Steve Neago
Cincinnati, OH

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Subject: [CR]ebay seller hiding material defects- responsible for


Steve- You have taken the words right out of my mouth. My only question is what to do. Is it "sour grapes" of me to report such bogus traps to the rest of the CR list? Will I be considered "kill" bait because I am the messenger? Or are bogus "outings" welcomed by the list? I for one would like to know what other listers think of this because it crosses my mind frequently. Please let me know. Cheers as always, Dave Anderson Cut Bank--best weather of the year--MT

In a message dated 9/1/2003 9:02:57 PM PST, writes: My guess is that he is a kid trying to pull a fast one on an unsuspecting buyer. The Super Course frame seems to be loaded with a mismash of non-standard original parts which are likely surplus from his parts bin. I am sorry to see that a seller's apparently deceptive sales tactics require a potential buyer to purchase a 21" monitor like mine to see the subtle details he hopes another will fool other buyers with his misrepresentations...

The bottom line is E CAVEAT EMPTOR - some vintage bike sellers will try to play you for a fool with bad pics! I even came across one bad seller once selling a Raleigh Pro he described in "excellent shape" that actually needed a complete repaint and was in no way "excellent condition for its age". Hard to believe that he is a CR former member, but maybe it is better he
Regards, Steve Neago
Cincinnati, OH