Re: [CR]ebay seller hiding material defects- responsible for warningothers???

Example: Events:Cirque du Cyclisme:2002

From: "Renaissance Cycles" <>
To: "Steve Neago" <>, <>
References: <> <001701c37182$5d268ac0$>
Subject: Re: [CR]ebay seller hiding material defects- responsible for warningothers???
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 22:29:12 +0200
cc: classicrendezvous <>

Some and many just dosen't know any better, I'f everybody was so perfect then this world would be a boring place to live in........I'm sure that non of us will be fooled by sellers like this and little humor now and then dosen't hurt. I'm sure one a day a long time ago we all were in the same shoes of this seller. And I'm sure that those of us who worked or those of us who owns a bike shop that we all had our share of uneducated bike junkies come into the shop and spend a lot of money day in and day out! I know I had my fair share!...........One day a guy came into the shop and said He wanted this bike, I said OK!...............The end cost is this. He said he'll come back in 2 weeks, instead he came back the same day!.............Went into a side room sat on the floor and pulled out all of this money from several packets! He then came out and tossed all of this money at me and said here's your money!................And keep the change!.............The bike was only a little over $ 400.-. I said this is way to much!............He then said, didn't you hear me! I sais keep the change! This guy was a bit more than a regular nut case, when all said and done I was looking at a little over 3K?!?!..................He then walked out the door, tossed a cheese cloth over his face...................Rode off almost running over 3 ladies and yelling at them I love hookers!

DO NOTE!....................THIS IS A TRUE STORY!.............My co worker said, I hope he dosen't have any problems with the index shifting!?!?!...I don't think he will and I don't want him coming back with a gun! So stuck it in friction mode and left it there BTW: He didn't know anything about index shifting and didn't want to hear anything about the bike, so we left him there............The last time we heard or saw anything of this person, a Swat team was surouding his home..................WOW!.....This guy was nut, big time!

Baron C..................And the gang!!
Renaissance cycles,
Eindhoven Holland.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Neago"
Cc: "classicrendezvous"
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: [CR]ebay seller hiding material defects- responsible for


> Hi Dave,
> I am merely expressing a little frustration about some ebay sellers who
> abuse the internet to make a quick sale on what they deem is a vintage bike.
> You will find in the CR archives that I have always believed in discussing
> the facts about a problem to help warn others. There are no sour grapes
> here with the seller that I do not know. I only responded to Mark Poore's
> discussion on why some ebay sellers do not include detailed or enlarged
> pics.
> Regards, Steve Neago
> Cincinnati, OH
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <>
> To: <>; <>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 2:12 PM
> Subject: [CR]ebay seller hiding material defects- responsible for
> warningothers???
> Steve-
> You have taken the words right out of my mouth. My only question is
> what to do. Is it "sour grapes" of me to report such bogus traps to the rest
> of
> the CR list? Will I be considered "kill" bait because I am the messenger? Or
> are bogus "outings" welcomed by the list? I for one would like to know what
> other listers think of this because it crosses my mind frequently. Please
> let me
> know. Cheers as always,
> Dave Anderson
> Cut Bank--best weather of the year--MT
> In a message dated 9/1/2003 9:02:57 PM PST, writes:
> My guess is that he is a kid trying to pull a fast one on an
> unsuspecting buyer. The Super Course frame seems to be loaded with a mismash
> of
> non-standard original parts which are likely surplus from his parts bin. I
> am sorry
> to see that a seller's
> apparently deceptive sales tactics require a potential buyer to purchase a
> 21" monitor like mine to see the subtle details he hopes another will fool
> other buyers with his misrepresentations...
> The bottom line is E CAVEAT EMPTOR - some vintage bike sellers will try to
> play you for a fool with bad pics! I even came across one bad seller once
> selling a Raleigh Pro he described in "excellent shape" that actually needed
> a complete repaint and was in no way "excellent condition for its age".
> Hard to believe that he is a CR former member, but maybe it is better he
> quit!
> Regards, Steve Neago
> Cincinnati, OH