Re: [CR]Prugnat Paramount (PP)

(Example: Framebuilding:Tubing)

From: Tom Hayes <hayesbikes@nls.net>
To: <Carb7008@cs.com>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
References: <1c1.13e3645b.2d35d67b@cs.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Prugnat Paramount (PP)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 19:05:14 -0600


My understanding of when Paramounts had Prugnant lugs and when they had Nervex lugs relates more to years than to whether they are chrome or painted. After all many of the Nervex lugged frames had chrome on the Nervex lugs.

Sometime in 1967, Schwinn switched to Prugnant lugs from having all nervex lugged frame. The pre-1967 and some of the 1967's have all Nervex lugs, including the bottom bracket. In 1970 or early 1971, Schwinn swtiched back to Nervex lugs, though they continued using the Prugnant lugs on the bottom brackets. The initial swtich from Nervex was supposedly as a cost saving, and the switch back to the Nervex supposedly was because consumers complained.

Somewhere along the line, I read most of what I am relating, but I also know there could be all sorts of exceptions.

Cheers.

Tom Hayes
Chagrin Falls, Ohio


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From: Carb7008@cs.com
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Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 5:17 PM
Subject: [CR]Prugnat Paramount (PP)



> I'm not sure how Ken Toda's post re his chrome PPs came thru without an email
> address so I'll address my question to him via the list.
>
> I'd like to ask Ken and anyone else who has a PP what year they are and if
> they are paint or chrome? It would be interesting to find out what time period
> the Prugnat lugs were used and if they were used exclusively on chrome
> versions. My chrome PP-15? is E71xx and the red Nervex P-10 is J71xx.
>
> Ken's post re his 2 chrome PPs and my observations indicate that the majority
> of PPs are chrome. Why is this? I have been told that Prugnat lugs required
> less finishing than rougher Nervex which is a factor to consider in a chrome
> bike but the head lugs are chromed in either case so this isn't a convincing
> reason for Prugnat on chrome bikes
>
> Jack Romans
> Sacramento, CA