Re: [CR] Hacksawn Dropouts: A Smoking Gun?

(Example: Framebuilders:Bernard Carré)

From: "Steve Dahlquist" <steve@velochrome.com>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Subject: Re: [CR] Hacksawn Dropouts: A Smoking Gun?
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 18:56:05 -0800


<Brad Stockwell wrote:

<"Converting From Simplex to Campy" by Kurt Miska

< Kurt had a Gitane Tour de France with Simplex dropouts and wanted to use a Campy rear derailleur. He noted:

<"Trying to buy a metric tap for the 'Nuovo Record' upper pivot bolt proved impossible."

<"The decision to saw the lug off is not made lightly. Nevertheless I went ahead & tackled the job."

Bummer. My hack saw got stuck in the open position today, so the blade was loose. I was able to fix it using the rear dropout from an old Mercier to beat the handle down, to get the blade tight again. It all worked out well. Maybe I'll write a magazine article and submit it to some cycling media conglomerate, espousing the general acceptability of using a dropout as a hammer.

Trying to find a hammer quick that would do the job, proved impossible.

Of course my decision to use the Mercier dropout was not made lightly, though I went ahead and tackled the job.

My hack saw is now fully functional. My dropout is beat to hell.

Steve "no, I'm serious!" "really!" Dahlquist weather report -- 60 degrees, sunny, but too much work to do to ride Velochrome Frameset Painting V 559-592-6367 F 559-592-2585 C 559-967-3318 steve@velochrome.com 22582 Carson Avenue Exeter, California 93221 http://www.Velochrome.com

----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Ioakimedes To: 'jerrymoos' ; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 6:19 PM Subject: RE: [CR] Hacksawn Dropouts: A Smoking Gun?

Hola todos, The bolt on Suntour derailleur on my hack sawn Mercier works very well with a 14-34 freewheel, the Simplex Prestige is not capable of such a wide range freewheel. The quality of the Prestige derailleur was not the problem. On a corn cob freewheel a Prestige works adequately, and the plastic doesn't rust.

chris ioakimedes Fairfax California

-----Original Message----- From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of jerrymoos Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 5:32 PM To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR] Hacksawn Dropouts: A Smoking Gun?

This is the eternal debate here. Campy was excellent. Some, like me, think Simplex, Stronglight, Zeus Mavic. Maillard, Galli. OMAS , Gipiemme, SunTour and others were every bit as good. Chuck is usually in the camp that thinks Campy was clearly the best. We'll never all agree on this, but we sure have fun debating it.

Regards,

Jerry Moos "Back from a ride on my all Campy NR Falcon San Remo" Houston, TX

----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Schmidt" <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [CR] Hacksawn Dropouts: A Smoking Gun?

> "kohl57@starpower.net" wrote: > > > (cut) > > As a teen trying to save newspaper route money for these things, we all > > knew that if you wanted a "real" racing bike, a Gitane was cheap, a Peugeot > > a mite more but way cooler and then you had your Schwinns and Raleighs with > > their coveted Campy stuff which just cost a bomb in comparison. And I am > > not talking so much real quality differences here, just "But I gotta it..." > > marketing at work. > > > I respectfully disagree... there were _real_ quality differences there, > make no mistake about it. And yes "Gotta have it!" but for a very good > reason. Whether you could afford it or not was a whole other question, > of course... > > Chuck Schmidt > South Pasadena, Southern California > > . > _______________________________________________ > Classicrendezvous mailing list > Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org > http://www.bikelist.org/mailman/listinfo/classicrendezvous >

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