[CR]Ephgrave dating and joining the VCC

Example: History:Norris Lockley

From: "brucerobbins" <brucerobbins@supanet.com>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 15:19:37 -0000
Subject: [CR]Ephgrave dating and joining the VCC

> From: Hilary Stone <hilary.stone@blueyonder.co.uk>
> They are a simple sequential number - LE 1899 dates from 1952/3 but this a
> an excellent example of where joining the Veteran-Cycle Club can be
> extremely helpful. Peter Holland, the Veteran-Cycle Club's Marque Enthusiast
> will probably be able to be more precise and has amassed large amounts of
> info on the marque.

I had intended to join the VCC but, after speaking to a few ex-members, decided not to bother. I have my own reasons for this but I also wasn't too impressed by the idea that VCC marque enthusiasts are only supposed to pass on information to VCC members, although there are some who don't adhere to this, thankfully. I thought Thatcher did away with closed shops 20 years ago. I'd prefer to rely on the goodwill and knowledge to be found on the CR list. Thanks for the Ephgrave info.

Bruce Dundee Scotland
> Bruce wrote:
> > Can any Ephgrave owners give me a hand dating a frame. It has no transfers or
> > headbadge on it but I've been told it's an Ephgrave and it has the characters
> > LE 1899 under the bottom bracket. I'm pretty sure Les Ephgrave wasn't building
> > lightweights in the year before the 20th century so how do you interpret that
> > number. The frame is very similar to this one on Dale's site:
> > http://www.classicrendezvous.com/British/Ephgrave/Ephgrave_Green.htm
> > but without the downtube shifter braze-ons and with normal pump pegs. As ever,
> > any help would be greatly appreciated.