Re: [CR]Situation Desperate--Frame prices and demand

(Example: Framebuilders:Masi)

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Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 09:54:00 -0500
From: "Grant McLean" <Grant.McLean@SportingLife.ca>
Subject: Re: [CR]Situation Desperate--Frame prices and demand
To: "Classic Rendezvous Mail List (E-mail)" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>


Taz, Lou, whoever is still following this thread,

Imagine what the demand for frames from small custom shops would be if you could walk into a frame shop, buy one, and go home with it.

Leaving aside the physical impossibility of filling out an order form, being measured, picking out your lugs and paint jog, and having Brian or E-Richie pop into the back of the shop, and return a few minutes later with your completed frame!

The fact that it takes, on average, a few YEARS to get one, certainly reinforces the commitment of the customer! At that point, does it really matter what it costs? You are willing to wait, or you're not. Plus, you've got all that time to save up, come up with an explanation to your spouse, and build that extension on the garage!!

The internet has made so many high end items available at only a few clicks away, most people just don't want to wait for things anymore. Maybe that's part of the allure of a Baylis or a Weigle, since you're joining a club when you own one, a club with very patient members!

Grant McLean Toronto.Ca

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Peter wrote:
> > If you have more work than you can possibly handle, that, by definition, means that your prices are too low.

Lou replied:
> I disagree. The basic assumption is that you have efficient output and that you are working at a sustained and consistent efficiency. In other words, if you were able to build 10 frames per month, but now your efficiency has dropped to 5 frames per month, that doesn't necessarily mean you should raise prices just because you can't keep up with your workload. On the other hand, if you are still building frames at 10 per month and you have orders that would sustain 20 per month, you have to determine whether the reason you have those orders is because of your lower price compared to the competition. Raising prices may drop demand. If you can raise prices without dropping demand, you are certainly in a good position. How to do that is a difficult business decision. Lou Deeter, Orlando FL
>

my 2 cents:

As my econ professors kept beating into my head - changing the price of Brian's frames does NOT change demand - it changes the Quantity demanded. Changing some aspect of Brian's frames (like outsourcing the paint) may cause a decrease in demand.

For example: if Brian charges $1.00 per frame, then I would buy one (maybe even two) and so would many other people. If Brian charges $100,000 per frame, then only Chuck would buy one ;-). At $100,000 I still want one so the demand hasn't change but I can't afford it, so only the quantity demanded has changed.

Now say Brian decides he will only make frames out of paper mache'. I don't want any at $1.00 or even $0.01 so there is a change in demand.

As far as where Brian should price his frames, that price point would be where the quantity demanded equals the quantity that Brian is *willing* to supply and leaves no one with cash in hand saying "I'll pay that price" without getting a frame. That's assuming of course, that Brian's goal is to maximize his economic gain ($) instead of other objectives. Production efficiency doesn't play a role in demand. (Marginal revenue and marginal cost on the other hand...)

Taz Taylor - looking for that $1.00 Baylis frame in Atlanta, GA

(I knew an Econ degree would come in handy someday...)