Re: [CR]Nagasawa track bikes

(Example: Framebuilders:Rene Herse)

Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 19:37:57 -0700
From: "Chuck Schmidt" <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR]Nagasawa track bikes
References: <20040307.222043.3280.44.richardsachs@juno.com>


I think they look very Japanese and if I was buying a Japanese bike I'd want it to look very Japanese, so that's all good; but streamlined output isn't what I want to see in a bike frame from a smaller output builder.

And by the way... what is "a long time nagasawa but boy"??????????????????

Chuck Schmidt South Pasadena, Southern California

Richard M Sachs wrote:
>
> yes. no. no. no. dunno. yes.
>
> i'm saying that i personally cannot eschew* them due to
> the "labor saving" reasons because history has shown
> that they pre-date the ones we all love - the campagnolo
> 1053 set - with all the gee-gaws added on. there's no
> disputin' that. are they great for track frames? all that
> matters is if itcheygoomie nagasawa likes them and feels
> he's not stepping backwards in choosing them. would i use
> them? yes - but i wouldn't turn my back on the gee-gawed
> ones either. it would depend on the application.
> heck - if he's going to the effort to eliminate some elbow
> grease so that his output is streamlined, why not gussy
> them up. to my eye they are a little much, but i'm a long
> time nagasawa but boy so i'll cut him more slack than most.
>
> e-RICHIE
> chester, ct
> * i just wanted to use "eschew" in a sentence.
>
> <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net> writes:
> So Richie, are you saying that you like plug-in dropouts, or
> that they are not new, or that they are great for track bikes,
> or that...?????????????????????????????
>
> Chuck Schmidt
> South Pasadena, Southern California
>
>
> Richard M Sachs wrote:
> >
> > just for the %#(&^ ] of it i'll add:
> > i've done a few repairs in my time and have been pleasantly
> > surprised at the construction quality i've seen in the 20s/30s,
> > etecetereterera frames built by the drysdales and pop brennans
> > of the world. these were true track frames built for the original
> > six-day era.
> > many/most of these had plug-in dropouts.
> > proper-issimo.
> > e-RICHIE
> > chester, ct