Fw: [CR]Colnago/Masi Comparison

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From: "jerrymoos" <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: Fw: [CR]Colnago/Masi Comparison
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 15:05:15 -0600



----- Original Message -----
From: jerrymoos
To: Richard M Sachs
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [CR]Colnago/Masi Comparison



> As I said, Ernesto Colnago NEVER made profit the ONLY motive. I was
> responding to the proposition that the business of business is business.
> That propostion leads to post-Schwinn-family Schwinns and ultimately to
> Enrons.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jerry "can extrapolate with the best" Moos
> Houston, TX
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard M Sachs" <richardsachs@juno.com>
> To: <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
> Cc: <Grant.McLean@SportingLife.ca>; <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 1:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [CR]Colnago/Masi Comparison
>
>
> > jerr-issimo
> > that is some serious extrapolating to that metaphorical
> > exponential end you got goin' on!! i wasn't even thinking
> > about the motives of the current day owners of "brands"
> > and/or producers of these goods. i thought we were discussing
> > how folks from "then" who were once, in your word, "artistes"
> > somehow traded their motivation for "business". you mentioned
> > colnago. somehow his current state of things is equal to an
> > enron situation? c'mon!
> > he's lucky to have created a business model in which
> > he can remain a part of his love - the sport. you expect him to
> > stand next to a bench like he did in the 60s? he made the same
> > choices all builders made in that era. his practices allowed him
> > to prosper. many others tried it and were less successful.
> > e-RICHIE
> > chester, ct
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net> writes:
> > Well, I'd don't believe the business of business is business. Having
> > myself
> > been an officer of a $ billion company, I believe nothing bankrupts a
> > company faster than a management which places profit first and only .
> > Far
> > too many US companies are now run by people like this, Ivy League MBA
> > types,
> > who edlessly analyze "THE FINANCIALS" but who are totally ignorant of the
> > goods and services which the company is supposed to provide. Furthermore
> > they are totally conviced that providing any real goods or service is
> > irrelevant. The criminals Andy Fastow and Jeff Skilling at Enron are the
> > perfect examples.
> >
> > When these sorts of people take over a company, it rapidly stops
> > providing
> > quality goods and services. And since even American consumers are, in
> > the
> > end, not total idiots, the company eventually loses its customers and
> > ceases
> > to make a profit as well. This has happened in the bike business as well
> > as
> > many others. I don't think Ernesto Colnago has ever had this kind of
> > disregard for the product. One of the worst examples I've seen in the
> > bike
> > industry was in the early 90's, when Schwinn, several owners after the
> > Schwinn family lost control, started slapping the Paramount name not only
> > on
> > lower end Taiwan built bikes, but on cheap bike computers and helmets and
> > God knows what else. Perhaps Richard Schwinn at the Cirque banquet will
> > share his thoughts about what has happened to his family's former
> > business
> > in the last decade and a half. I imagine his is pretty unhappy with much
> > of
> > it.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jerry Moos
> > Houston, TX