Re: [CR]excess heat in the 60s and 70s

(Example: Framebuilders:Masi)

From: "Willis" <smwillis@verizon.net>
To: <nickzz@mindspring.com>, "jack bissell" <jack_bissell@mac.com>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
References: <410-220043021193618281@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]excess heat in the 60s and 70s
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 08:57:48 -0500


Major cool factor are added with braze ons.
Steven Willis
The Bike Stand
1778 East Second Street
Scotch Plains NJ 07076
908-332-3330
http://www.thebikestand.com


----- Original Message -----
From: nick zatezalo
To: jack bissell
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 2:36 PM
Subject: RE: [CR]excess heat in the 60s and 70s



> I don't have the answers to your query, but why did frame builders start
> using
> braze-ons?
>
> Don't they add time to the building process?
>
> Do components work more effectively when secured with braze-ons?
>
> Are tubes weakened when braze-ons are added?
>
> Did they add mojo to the builder's product?
>
>
> Nick Zatezalo
> Atlanta,Ga
>
>
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: jack bissell <jack_bissell@mac.com>
> > To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> > Date: 3/21/2004 1:59:20 PM
> > Subject: [CR]excess heat in the 60s and 70s
> >
> > Like a lot of modern bikes my '56 Peugeot PLX-10 has slotted TT
> > brazed-on stops for the brake cable. I say they got it exactly right,
> > so why would the subsequent millions of Peugeots made since have
> > (inferior?) clamp-on guides or unslotted braze-ons?
> >
> > I notice lots more braze-ons on 50s bikes (shifters, cable
> > guides/stops, pump pegs), and many builders and constructeurs NEVER did
> > the clamp-it-on thing....
> >
> > Is there anything to the 60s/70's dogma that braze-ons add unnecessary
> > heat?
> >
> > Jack Bissell loving the look of clamped-on bits but doesn't understand
> > their reason to exist in
> > Tucson, Az