Re: [CR]Now: Pointless discussion Was: SIS housing misuse

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From: "jerrymoos" <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
To: <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Subject: Re: [CR]Now: Pointless discussion Was: SIS housing misuse
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 18:48:41 -0600


Thanks to this thread, several more members are aware of the potential problems with using SIS cables for brakes. Pointless? If you are right about the hazards, I hardly think so. I mentioned C-Record only incidentially and jokingly, although some people have no sense of humor. Also, the last Cirque I was able to attend, the Best Italian award was won by Larry Black's Bianchi Centenario. Maybe its by fading memory, but I thought the Centenario was all C-Record. I guess it was On Topic enough to win best in caetgory, or maybe I just imagined that.

Regards,

Jerry Moos
Houston, TX


----- Original Message -----
From: Chuck Schmidt
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: [CR]Now: Pointless discussion Was: SIS housing misuse



> I think it is fairly obvious that Campagnolo C-Record is off topic. Why
> do you persist in posting about C-Record Jerry?
>
> And to use SIS derailleur housing for brake housing is clearing
> dangerous (Shimano has even warned about the danger in doing this!).
> Appropriate brake housing is available in any bike shop in the world.
> In a word Jerry: pointless. Sorry if this strikes you as rude.
>
> Chuck Schmidt
> South Pasadena, Southern California
>
>
> jerrymoos wrote:
> >
> > Where to find parts to keep vintage bikes on the road is not in the least
> > off topic. If we all insisted on only using consumables like tires, tubes,
> > housing and cables actually made when the frames were produced, most classic
> > bikes would be sitting in the garage instead of being on the road. If this
> > list ever becomes that narrow I will gladly quit, but fortunately Dale is
> > not a fool and would never narrow the scope to that extent. If Dale thinks
> > I am off topic he will tell me, but he will not doubt have the good manners
> > to do so offlist.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jerry Moos
> > Houston, TX
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chuck Schmidt" <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>
> > To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 7:54 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CR]Now: Pointless discussion Was: SIS housing misuse
> >
> > > Swell Jerry... so to put this all REALLY in perscpective, the SIS
> > > discussion is off topic and so is your C-Record Bianchi. But I guess
> > > you need Dale to tell you that, right?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Chuck Schmidt
> > > South Pasadena, Southern California
> > >
> > >
> > > jerrymoos wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well, to put this all in perspective, the Bianchi in question is all
> > Campy
> > > > C-Record including Delta brakes. Deltas were more decorative than
> > > > functional, not as if they would actually stop the bike. So sudden
> > total
> > > > loss of brake function would hardly constitute a noticeable change.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Jerry Moos
> > > > Houston, TX
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Chuck Schmidt" <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>
> > > > To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 2:00 PM
> > > > Subject: [CR]Now: Pointless discussion Was: SIS housing misuse
> > > >
> > > > > jerrymoos wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (ctu) so maybe I'll meet my
> > > > > > end when an ALAN frame or the Vitus I recently bought suddenly and
> > > > > > catastrophically fals.
> > > > >
> > > > > Never heard of failure like this. Cracks but not a life threating
> > > > failure.
> > > > >
> > > > > > The failure of an SIS housing may be a bit
> > > > > > more likely than that, but a rupture of the housing won't
> > necessarily
> > > > mean
> > > > > > complete loss of brake function, and even if it does, most bikes
> > have
> > > > TWO
> > > > > > brakes. The likelihood that both front and rear brake cable
> > housings
> > > > will
> > > > > > simultaneously fail (cut)
> > > > >
> > > > > Have heard of this failure. When a brake fails, it would be because
> > of
> > > > > a hard application and there is not enough recovery time to stop with
> > > > > the rear brake.
> > > > >
> > > > > The point being it is a misuse of SIS housing so why do it? Seems
> > > > > contrary to me and a pretty pointless thing to discuss.
> > > > >
> > > > > Chuck Schmidt
> > > > > South Pasadena, Southern California
> > > > >
> > > > > .