Re: [CR]FW: Identifying frame

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From: "Raoul Delmare" <Raoul.L.Delmare@worldnet.att.net>
To: "C.R. List" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
References: <20040329232810.84364.qmail@web21106.mail.yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]FW: Identifying frame
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 18:12:45 -0600


As the owner of a late ( July-August 1972 ) Legnano , this is how I would describe the "seat-post-clamp" area .

The seat-lug has a large SLOT cut into it , just a most seat lugs have a large slot cut into them . And the slot runs up and down , just as most such slots run up and down . However , what is different is that instead of the slot being at the upper-rear of the seat lug , the slot on a Legnano is at the lower-front of the seat lug .

And yes , there is a built-in , reinforced , area for the nut and bolt . This "seat-clamp-bolt" is located under the top-tube , at the point where the top-tube joins with the seat-tube .

Final note - this is NOT any kind of expander bolt , nor is it any kind of a "set-screw" . It's a normal "pinch-bolt" type of nut and bolt . It's just not quite in the average place .

This sounds a bit different from what you were describing about the unidentified frame ? Maybe ?

:^)

Raoul Delmare
Marysville Kansas


----- Original Message -----
From: Harris
To: steveb@pvbike.com
Cc: Philcycles@aol.com
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 5:28 PM
Subject: RE: [CR]FW: Identifying frame



> The Legnano had it in that location,but it ran right to left,and I think that what you have runs front to rear?Harris Spracher,Waynesboro Va.
>
> Steve Bowen <steveb@pvbike.com> wrote:Harris,
>
> The hole does face the headtube, but it's on the underside of the top
> tube, part of the seat lug cluster.
>
> Steve Bowen
> Palos Verdes California (mid 90's today!)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Harris
> Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 7:02 PM
> To: Philcycles@aol.com; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]FW: Identifying frame
>
>
> Do you mean the hole on seatlug would face headtube?Or just that it is
> located in that corner of seatlug?Harris Spracher,Waynesboro Va.
>
> Philcycles@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 3/28/04 6:13:42 PM, steveb@pvbike.com writes:
>
> >The only other distinguishing characteristic is an unusual seat post
> >binder arrangement: There is a hole cut through the bottom of the seat
> >tube lug, facing the front of the bike, and it looks like some sort of
> >expander bolt was meant to go through there and press up against the
> >seat post. The seat tube has no split at the top like a normal frame.
> >
> >Any possibility of you identifying this one way or the other?
> >
> >
> Without looking at a picture it's tough but the seat post binder you
> describe
> is Legano.
> Phil Brown
> SR, CA
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