[CR]Fake Herse on e-bay? Decals?

(Example: Framebuilders:Chris Pauley)

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Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 12:20:47 -0700
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
From: "Jan Heine" <heine93@earthlink.net>
Subject: [CR]Fake Herse on e-bay? Decals?

René Herse bikes until at least 1975 should have hand-lettering. I don't know how long the hiatus was after Herse died, but from 1980 onwards, bikes had decals. I have seen only one style, as on the bike on e-bay. It is very different from the hand-lettering. The hand-lettering, too, changed over the years as different people painted it.

Often, earlier bikes were brought back to the Herse shop for an overhaul and repaint, and emerged with decals.

I know the sellers, and they are reputable. I have bought a bike from them privately years ago, as well as arranged bike purchases for friends, always to my greatest satisfaction.

And yes, that bike is an Herse. In France, I have not yet seen any "fake" Herse bikes that were convincing. I have seen bikes labeled Herse that probably were not made by Herse (simply redone by Herse), but you usually can tell at first sight. -- Jan Heine, Seattle Editor/Publisher Vintage Bicycle Quarterly http://www.mindspring.com/~heine/bikesite/bikesite/


>There certainly were Herse decals - not sure what varieties exist.
>The bike on ebay from a quick glance does not have the latter Herse
>decals that I'm used to - but that wouldn't be a deal breaker for
>me. The bike just screams Herse so from the photos I saw there is
>no reason to believe that the bike is not the real thing.
>
>Of greater concern is bidding on a bike from a seller with no
>history in another country.
>
>Mike Kone in Boulder CO