Re: [CR] Stinky DeRosa on yokoo web update


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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 16:31:08 -0400
From: Grant McLean <Grant.McLean@SportingLife.ca>
Subject: Re: [CR] Stinky DeRosa on yokoo web update
To: "Classic Rendezvous Mail List (E-mail)" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>


E-Ricardo,

Maybe you should stop doing such a nice job building your frames so they could be considered more period correct?

Don't force us to remove our rose-tinted wayfarers now, they're just about to come back in style!!!

Grant McLean(tm) Toronto.Ca

From: Richard M Sachs <richardsachs@juno.com> mikey, mikey, mikey... this would be a tough thread - because the rose coloured* glasses would need thicker and thicker lenses to really disect CR era stuff in the vein that u r suggesting. i think the derosa that is depicted is/was state of the art re "work- manship" back then. otoh, when i stripped the paint from my TWO italian 71 masis i was aghast at the level of heavy-handness that was evident. i even wrote about it in my tome, Period Correct®. i think the issue will become linked to our antenaes (sp?) going up much higher now than they were able to go in the 70s. it's an across-the-board problem when retrospecting. i like keeping things within their respective eras. my opinion of the a singers was based in a 2003 sensibility, but i think the derosa and others like them were mighty fine for 70s work. the only builder whose frames i saw (read: I SAW...) back then whose work and workmanship crossed eras was w.b. hurlow. e-RICHIE® Richard Sachs Cycles No.9, North Main Street Chester, CT 06412 USA Tel. 860.526.2059 site: http://www.richardsachs.com pics: http://photos.yahoo.com/bobbesrs rants: http://richardsachs.blogspot.com/

*i spelled in the british way because i'm feeling so gay now that the UCONN HUSKIES KICKED BUTTKUS AT THE NCAA CHAMPIONSHIPS.

On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 19:09:18 +0000 hersefan@comcast.net writes: Hi CR folks,

If you go to the Japanese web site in Richards post you will see images of a DeRosa which is one of the very rare early 70's ones.

The workmanship on this one like one I personally owned a few years back is painfully weak - check out the braze globs at the seatlug for example. The one I owned had brazing gaps of pathetic proportions. It was still a very cool bike though...

After putting Alex Singer through the workmanship wringer a few weeks back, it is time someone put DeRosa through the wringer as well. I thought the one I had was an aberation. Apparently not.

Also on the topic of quality, I cut open an old Cinelli which was crashed to examine. Overall way better than necessary, but some mighty poor mitering compared with a top tier American built frame.

Mike Kone in Boulder CO

I have
> yup
> that's exactly how i remember the first derosas i saw.
> they were dubois lugged with the odd dipsy-do in the
> front of the head tube. pity - those frames never had a
> reinforcer brazed within the seat lug ears: all the crushed,
> mis-shapen, and distorted lugs.
> but i digress.
> i also have good news. in addition to saving on my car insurance
> by switching to geico, UCONN HUSKIES KICKED BUTTKUS AT
> THE NCAA CHAMPIONSHIPS.
> gotta go...
> e-RICHIE®
> Richard Sachs Cycles
> No.9, North Main Street
> Chester, CT 06412 USA
> Tel. 860.526.2059
> site: http://www.richardsachs.com
> pics: http://photos.yahoo.com/bobbesrs
> rants: http://richardsachs.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
> On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 14:24:39 -0400 Grant McLean
> <Grant.McLean@SportingLife.ca> writes:
> Hi List,
> I noticed today that the japanese website for Yokoo cycles has been
> updated with some more fancy retro stuff. Note the nice derosa....
> http://www.cycles-yokoo.co.jp/collection.html.html
> grant mclean
> Toronto, Canada