RE: [CR]Cinelli 1 R; accepted with the "unwanted and dangerous campy stuff"

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Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 14:35:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Harris" <>
Subject: RE: [CR]Cinelli 1 R; accepted with the "unwanted and dangerous campy stuff"
To: "Thomas R. Adams, Jr." <>,
In-Reply-To: <>

My southeastern depot gladly accepts all of these unsafe items for the good of mankind. You must pay shipping.Some exceptions will be made at my discretion. Harris Spracher,Campy Recycling Center of America.Southeastern warehouse. Waynesboro Va.

"Thomas R. Adams, Jr." <> wrote:

Thanks everyone, for helping out. I'm sure the proposed remedies are true generally, but when I first built up the MKM it started with a Cinelli 1R stem. Having carefully read the archives, I cleaned the internals and greased everything liberally, but during the first hard stop, down went the handlebars. I tried two or three more times, tightening more each time, but I could always make the bars slip. The stem still had the alloy binder bolt in it, and perhaps I didn't torque the clamp quite enough out of fear of stripping it. Or maybe it has more to due with my awesome girth that put more stress on the poor clamp than the stem designer could have contemplated. In any event, the stem is in the box, waiting for the day when I can find a steel replacement bolt. Everyone's milage may vary. And no, it's not for sale. I still haven't given up hope of getting down to a reasonable weight.

Tom Adams, Shrewsbury NJ

>From: Grant McLean
>To: "Classic Rendezvous Mail List (E-mail)"
>Subject: [CR]Cinelli 1 R
>Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 15:54:55 -0400
>Steve (wink), chuck, tom, et all,
>I think if a 1R stem has a holding problem,
>it could be because the wedge that pushed against
>the bar could be broken, and this piece should be checked.
>Given what we bikeshop service monkeys see (and do)
>it doesn't surprise me that this could happen when
>the pieces aren't lubed, or assembled carefully.
>I believe, like Chuck is suggesting, that if it's lubed,
>and the correct torque is applied, there shouldn't be a problem.
>Grant McLean
>toronto, canada
>(northern depot of 1R recycling)
>"Thomas R. Adams, Jr." wrote:
> >
> > (cut) And I notice that Eddy Merckx is riding a Cinelli 1R stem.
>Did the Molteni team take any special measures to keep these from slipping
>on the pave?
>Chuck Schmit
>Antiseeeeze compound and tighten normally I heard...
>The Center For Cinelli 1R Aluminum Stem Recycling®
>South Pasadena, Southern California
>Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 17:45:58 +0000
>To: (Classic Rendezvous)
>Subject: Re: A Sunday in Hell was: [CR]Benotto - De Rosa connection
>Precedence: list
>Message: 13
>Tom wrote:
> > Eddy Merckx is riding a Cinelli 1R stem. Did the Molteni team take
> > any special measures to keep these from slipping on the pave?
>Many people say that the 1R all were doomed to slip. I believe this is a
>fallacy. I have been using one on my tandem for over 20 years and it has
>never slipped or creaked. I used them on a number of other bikes too, always
>with the same results. When I installed the stems, I always made sure
>everything was thoroughly lathered in grease and it worked. I did however
>have one break across the front, likely because the grease allowed me to
>overtighten the stem (Cinelli promptly replaced it free of charge).
>Steven Maasland
>Moorestown, NJ
>Classicrendezvous mailing list

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