[CR]Re: Mies Van der Rohe

(Example: Framebuilders:Dario Pegoretti)

To: jack@shermangabus.com
Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 15:25:30 -0400
From: "Richard M Sachs" <richardsachs@juno.com>
cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: [CR]Re: Mies Van der Rohe

please leave me out of the rohe stuff because i didn't cite him or architecture. what i do know is this: the decorations that comprise this "bi-lam" thread are add-ons that serve to deceive the eye - or imply - that it is not simply a bronze welded joint, but one that seems lug-ish. for the record, i don't have an opinion on fleurs-de- lis, assymetrical lug shorelines, outrageous cutouts, or anything like that. my opinion here is centered around the decision to add heat to the joint (!!!!!) so that a plain one turns into a less-plain one. take the extra heat out of the equation and i wouldn't have an opinion. now - i'm no architect, but would all the gargoyles and other types of exterior decorations be part of the builder's trade if including them meant affectng the integrity of the building? e-RICHIE chester, ct

On Fri, 21 May 2004 12:02:53 -0700 "Jack Gabus" <jack@shermangabus.com> writes: Gentlemen of cycledom, I use the term loosely:

Now you are on my turf. I am a designer and own an Architectural firm. There are two schools of thought.

1. Since the Bauhaus of which Mies was a Disciple the dictum was form follows function. And just so you know this school was just after WWI and they were trying to design housing and it furnishings on the cheap, in other words less was really more. The masses were pretty poor at the time so this was there Ikea so to speak. It very ironic how exspensive there product is today.

2. "Less is a Bore" Maybe this is you e-Ritchie. Just before the Bauhaus period was the Victorian Era...the more the decoration the better. I call it "goop".

So I guess here is how you can relates this to our Passion...cycling!

Mies is to Trek as Queen Victoria is to Hetchins. I guess that is why I Personally prefer a Masi 3V in that bike there something for everybody.

Any way here endth the lesson.

Jack (Giacomo) Gabus
Laguna Beach, CA