Just shows you after all this debate most of it falls on deaf ears. If the add ons on the fork crowns are not bilaminates on the Cottinghams my pricks a bloater as we say in this neck of the woods. Don't believe me about Hetchins, Cottinghams and countless other makes just look at the ebay sellers description on item number 2245651642. Or what Ken Janes said. Better still ask any builder who has repaired one of these. Yes Cottinghams, Hetchins Magnum Opus and Magnum Bonum lug extensions are bilams. There aren't lugs made long enough to hand cut these ornate patterns! And as for the B------t about the extra heat with the fitting of the bilam, was know one paying attention when I wrote it was silver soldered into place so that it would not interfere with the fillet brazed joint. Oh and just as an add on I personally know two people who cut bilams for Roy Cottingham when he was busy. In fact one of them will piss himself with laughter when he reads these postings on this subject. Wakey wakey over there. Now I have really blotted my copybook. Best wishes and be lucky. Michael Butler Huntingdon UK.