Re: [CR]Vintage water bottle question

> A few comments on my experience with modern bottles and cages mounted on
> handlebars.
>
> The older bottles were aluminium, the cages had a sprung closure to hold the
> bottle from rattling as the bottle didn't compress. You opened the cage and
> the bottle cage out easily. The plastic bottles came about and the bottle
> could fit snugly into a cage and the need for sprung closures ceased, but
> the need to apply more force to insert and remove the bottle came about.
>
> Pulling a snug fitting (modern) bottle from a snug fitting (modern) cage
> mounted to the handlebar has in my experience meant an odd torque was
> applied to the bars that adversely affects handling, I have this arrangement
> on my '72 Peugeot because I didn't want to mess up the paint on my down
> tube, but on future builds I will clamp a bottle cage on the DT when I need
> one.
>
> Personally I think the cage up top looks neat and all, but I'd only do it
> again with a sprung closure type cage.
>
> David Bilenkey
> Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
> > [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org]On Behalf Of jerrymoos
> > Sent: June 15, 2004 10:59 AM
> > To: BobHoveyGa@aol.com; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> > Subject: Re: [CR]Vintage water bottle question
> >
> >
> > You can still buy handlebar mounts for water bottle cages, made
> > by Minoura.
> > A different design from the old HB cage mounts, but I think they
> > look pretty
> > classic and at home on a classic bike, especially if you use a
> > chromed steel
> > cage. I have several of these, and almost always use them on any bike
> > without water bottle cage brazeons, so as to avoid damaging the paint with
> > cage clamps. They come in single cage or double cage versions.
> > Sheldon and
> > others sell them.
> >
> > The only disavantages I see to HB cages is that the bars get a
> > bit cluttered
> > if you also have a computer mounted and perhaps a separate HRM. Also, the
> > mounts obscure and might scratch the engravings on fancy engraved bars.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jerry Moos
> > Houston, TX
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <BobHoveyGa@aol.com>
> > To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 8:36 AM
> > Subject: Re: [CR]Vintage water bottle question
> >
> >
> > > >In a message dated 6/14/2004 1:13:25 PM PST, wheelman@nac.net writes:
> > > Why did handlebar mount water bottles fall out of favor. I do
> > my share of
> > > riding and find it a bit more difficult to reach down and retrieve my wb
> > > from the down or seat tube and then put it back. I would think the hb
> > > mount to be safer and easier to access. Is it a matter of the additional
> > > weight over the front wheel? Most people drop their water bottles on a
> > > ride from trying to remove or replace it without looking. Is it possible
> > > that it is asthetics?
> > >
> > > Ray Homiski
> > >
> > > >Perhaps handling? I have a water bottle mounted on the bars on my 1970
> > bike.
> > > Sure it is pushing the envelope, but I think it looks cool...
> > >
> > > Stephan Andranian
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't think you're pushiing the envelope at all...
> > >
> > > Looking at race photos, handlebar-mounted water bottles seem to
> > disappear
> > > after the mid to late 60's, but they were fairly popular items in bike
> > shops for
> > > at least a few years after that. My '72 Peugeot PX-10 came
> > with one and
> > I
> > > loved it. I had it for a few years until the bike needed a
> > repaint and I
> > fell
> > > victim to the siren song of DT braze-on bottle bosses.
> > >
> > > I remember seeing quite a few photos of handlebar-mounted bottles with
> > straws
> > > in them... one did not even have to remove the bottle, just lean over a
> > bit
> > > and sip. Now that beats even a Camelbak for ease of use, doesn't it...
> > as
> > > long as you don't poke yourself in the eye.
> > >
> > > Bob Hovey
> > > Columbus, GA