[CR]Re: Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 19, Issue 1

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From: "Stephen Barner" <steve@sburl.com>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 10:29:01 -0400
Subject: [CR]Re: Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 19, Issue 1

In order for there to be any significant dampening effect, the chainstay would have to flex perpendicular to its axis in concert with any flex in the seatstay along its axis. I doubt there is any real difference with this arrangement over a standard straight seatstay, especially since there is no mechanical hinging built into the chainstays, as there is on a suspension bike. Like the Hetchins, any difference is probably cosmetic. The biggest impact on shock absorption is tire size and pressure. It sure is pretty, though.

Steve Barner, Bolton, Vermont

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> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 01:54:49 -0400

> From: "Jeremy Lieberman" <jeremylieberman@nyc.rr.com>

> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>

> Subject: [CR]The Modern Hetchins?

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> http://www.kirkframeworks.com/Photo%20Gallery%204.htm=20

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> It seems as if Kirk has done the reverse of Hetchins, seeking to gain =

> added suspension effect not from the chainstays- as was Hetchins =

> specialty (though I understand that Hetchins did put some slight bend in =

> his seatstays), but instead from the seatstays. It could be that Kirk =

> has created a more effective design than Hetchins, in that (as some have =

> remarked) the seat stays play a larger role in suspending a bike in the =

> vertical plane than chainstays do- and therefore will contribute a =

> larger movement up and down than chainstays will.

>
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> for a given riders weight and road use. I wonder if from a Physics =

> perspective, his long S bend seatstays could be as well done using =

> instead only one long sweeping C bend? Comments? Thanks,

> Jeremy Lieberman

> New York City