[CR]suspicious offers

Example: Framebuilding:Brazing Technique
From: <chuck1sd@cox.net>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 10:23:36 -0400
Subject: [CR]suspicious offers

Definately be careful!! Let me tell you about how I got ripped off. I was contacted by email about a year ago regarding a Project 96 TT bike I was selling. The person said that they had been looking for one for a customer of theirs. The guy said he was an american businessman who was from Texas and had an import/export business in the Philipines. He offered me $3000 for the bike and sent me his credit card info. Included with the info was, name, address, credit card #, and three digit code from the back. I ran the card on my machine at work and everything was OK. He also paid for next day shipping-$430 (I should have now become suspicious). I shipped it FedX, and was very happy. Two months later the money was debited out of my bank account by Visa. The real owners of the card filed a claim. They were still in possesion of the card, so the info was lifted off the internet. The credit card company said I did not have any recourse because I was not set up to take credit cards over the phone and therefore was not covered by my sellers protection(absolute BS, but I was out of luck). I lost the money and the bike!!! So beware of those who sound fishy, because they probably are.

Charles Schlesinger
San Diego, CA USA