[CR]Kashimax/Ariane saddle questions

(Example: Framebuilders:Bernard Carré)

From: "reilley_1" <reilley_1@sbcglobal.net>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 14:51:29 -0700
Subject: [CR]Kashimax/Ariane saddle questions

I came across a few saddles today. All NOS but been sitting in storage for a while apparently. The more interesting ones are as follows:

Black non-ribbed steel based Messinger with cool twin dragon/roosters? on the side of the saddle. A few Ariake (non-aero) suede saddles in brown and black with Miyata markings on the back of a couple of them. A few Kashimax saddles (All non-aero.) They include brown and black "Super", brown and black "Sports," along with a black "Super-pro" Also, some trick looking (one brown suede and one black leather ) aluminium-railed Kashima (No X at the end) "Five Gold" seats.

The questions: Anyone know their approximate vintage (specially the Messinger and the "Five gold" seats) and what is the best way of cleaning the suede seats without messing them up?

Thanks for any pointers.

Rick Gaytan

Finding for a place to sit in

San Diego, CA