Re: [CR]Touring on vintage lightweights

(Example: Racing)

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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 23:30:33 -0400
To: Joe Bender-Zanoni <>,
From: "Sheldon Brown" <>
Subject: Re: [CR]Touring on vintage lightweights

Joe Bender-Zanoni wrote:
>I think Sheldon's triple, cantilever requirement is too strict. Let's just
>say a lowest gear of around 32 gear inches (I actually like triples and much
>lower gearing) and the potential for strong braking. Some very serious
>tourists use wide range doubles by choice and Mathauser pads on stout
>sidepulls sit the bike down very well.

I never meant to say that you couldn't tour happily on such bikes. One of my own longest tours was on an old Dawes club frame with a 4 speed freewheel and only one chainring.

A great deal of happy touring has been done on English 3 speeds. Only two things are needed for a bike to be satisfactory for touring:

It must be reasonably comfortable.

It must be sturdy enough to not break.

However, the point I was making was that a bike that lacked those two features (triple chainrings and cantilever brakes) would not generally be considered a _purpose-built_ loaded-touring bike.
>It is also to be remembered that
>braking is a matter of hand strength also. Cantilevers also leave out the
>excellent and very custom brazed on centerpull option.

Sounds as if Joe is under the old, fallacious idea that the reason for cantilevers is to improve braking power. That's not correct. Cantilevers don't inherently have more braking power than caliper brakes.

The purpose of cantilevers is to improve tire and fender clearance.

Sheldon "My Raven Is Happy With 26 x 1.75 Tires" Brown +------------------------------------------------------------+ | Tour on popular routes like the Oregon Coast you will see | | just about anything with two wheels out there, with any | | amount of luggage strapped on in any conceivable way. | | Everyone seems to be having a good time doing it. | | However, certain choices will reduce breakdowns, and | | make the trip less a project of transporting equipment, | | and more one of enjoying the scenery and cultures. | | --Eric Salathé | +------------------------------------------------------------+ --
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