Re: [CR]Reynolds vs. Columbus : Who's lighter ??

(Example: Production Builders)

From: <"richardsachs@juno.com">
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 22:20:42 GMT
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR]Reynolds vs. Columbus : Who's lighter ??


"In those days, I heard an unconfirmed rumor..."

it's more unconfirmed now than ever. i think we should use our collective hindsight and discuss that it (the "stuff" part) was mostly-if-not-all myth, or even mythical. there are so many variations in the products offered to the building trade, so many variables that are attached to the building process, so many variations in the way so many builders can design the same size frames...that i'd suggest it's not possible to narrow in on a brand of steel or steel composition in order to define a ride quality. more than anything, you "feel" the frame design and the wheels/components that adorn it. i also think it's difficult to isolate this as a "heft" issue due to these variables. like many, i was consumed by the 531 vs columbus thing early on, but finally concluded that "stuff" was "stuff", and the important component(s) was/were the design and assembly.
e-RICHIE
chester, ct


-- Donald Gillies wrote:


A silly question of course, because there were so many gauges over the years. However, in the early days, let's say 1970, I believe that fewer choices were available.

In those days, I heard an unconfirmed rumor that a standard Reynolds frame would be little bit lighter than a standard Columbus (SP?) frameset with the same geometry and lugs. therefore, of course, reynolds was supposed to be "better" (no flames, please.) Anyway, can anyone confirm or deny this rumor ??

Also, what's the lighted lugged 531 frameset (531c?) that could ever be had, what is the weight (or a guestimate), for a generic size like 56cm, including frameset and fork (in 531 of course) ?? How much below 6 lbs could it get ??

- Don Gillies
San Diego, CA