Re: Re: [CR]NOW: francophile minoosha. Was Guerciotti and Tempesta

(Example: Framebuilding:Brazing Technique)

Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 18:01:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: "David Feldman" <feldmanbike@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re: [CR]NOW: francophile minoosha. Was Guerciotti and Tempesta
To: gpvb1@comcast.net, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <090920040037.24444.413FA5DC000E5EA000005F7C2200734748CE0D909F09@comcast.net>


2 other OT users of this treatment--Moser and Merz.
David Feldman
Vancouver, WA


--- gpvb1@comcast.net wrote:


> It's an aesthetic, a "look."
> Personally, I think that style is multo cool. If you
> do it right, the brass just sucks back in a tad,
> leaving a nice-looking fillet / complex radius in
> that area. My Ilkeston-built Raleigh Team Pro also
> has that style of brazing at the tips. I figure if
> it was good enough for many French builders, and
> good enough for G.O.D. at Raleigh, it must be OK!
> Plus, the French in general (not always, OK, so no
> flames please) were more about function than pretty
> joints on their frames, as Sir Richard so
> righteously stated.
> Greg "brasé à la main" Parker
> Ann Arbor, Michigan
> (hope those "graves" and "egues" format properly)
> Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 13:00:53 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Fred Rafael Rednor <fred_rednor@yahoo.com>
> To: "richardsachs@juno.com" <richardsachs@juno.com>,
> LouDeeter@aol.com
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]NOW: francophile minoosha. Was
> Guerciotti and Tempesta
>
> e-RICHIE writ:
>
> > what you're refering to is what happens when
> the
> > brass is not fully closing the end of the
> fork
> > and stay - it's recessed a bit. that is,
> more
> > than anything, the french way. french
> builders
> > were notorious about function over fashion
> and
> > many/most simply used enough brass "there" so
>
> > that it all held together.
>
> I noticed this the other night while cleaning up the
> early '70s
> LeJeune track bike I'll be racing this weekend. Was
> brass more
> expensive in France, or was time at a premium, or
> what?
> There's a place where one of the fork ends meets the
> chainstay
> that seems to have the absolute minimum amount of
> brass that
> would still provide a solid joint.
> Amitiés,
> Fred Rednor, Arlington, Virginia
>
>
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