Re: [CR]Who was/is this framebuilder????

(Example: Framebuilders:Richard Moon)

From: "Larry Hakim" <larryhakim@hotmail.com>
To: stevens@veloworks.com, feldmanbike@yahoo.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR]Who was/is this framebuilder????
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 14:12:19 -0500


Bingo! We have a winner! Thats a link to the very seat stay arrangement I remember. Now why couldn't I pull up that particular photo when I visited that site... At any rate thanks for assisting my faltering memory!

Larry Hakim Oxford, MS


>From: "stevens" <stevens@veloworks.com>
>Reply-To: stevens@veloworks.com
>To: "Larry Hakim" <larryhakim@hotmail.com>, feldmanbike@yahoo.com,
>classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>Subject: Re: [CR]Who was/is this framebuilder????
>Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 11:23:26 -0700
>
>
>
>Ron has been building since 1946, when he started his apprenticeship, but
>he
>has only been building under his own name since 1970 or so ...
>
>See
>http://www.veloworks.com/roncooper/coopergallery/pages/greyseattube.html
>for details of his seatcluster arrangement ... and he does often build with
>simple lugs as well (as shown in that photo).
>
>My Cooper (the black & white one shown on the site) is built with simple
>short-point lugs, and a Henry James-style crown (by Everest, I believe).
>
>Most of the Coopers we sold during my time at A Bicycle Odyssey (in
>Sausalito), were similarly built with simple, short-point lugs.
>
>
>
>On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 12:56:06 -0500, Larry Hakim wrote
> > David the problem is that I have fairly clear picture in my mind of
> > what the frames looked like, (especially the seatstay cluster) and
> > the few photo references I've seen to Laing's and Moulton's frames
> > and graphics don't match, but then my memory plays tricks on me all
> > the time. The name that most rings a bell is Ron Cooper's but the
> > few internet photos of his frames dsiplay fancier lugs and different
> > graphics than what I remember from over 25 years ago, and I also
> > don't recall this particular builder building frames as long as Ron
> > had done.
> >
> > Larry Hakim
> > Oxford, MS
> >
> > >From: David Feldman <feldmanbike@yahoo.com>
> > >To: Larry Hakim <larryhakim@hotmail.com>,
>classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> > >Subject: Re: [CR]Who was/is this framebuilder????
> > >Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 10:43:58 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > >Larry,
> > >Does Colin Laing sound familiar? He's based in Tempe,
> > >Arizona. Another expatriate British builder who could
> > >fit that profile is/was Dave Moulton. Dave has made
> > >one of the more interesting career transitions, as
> > >he's now a working country and western songwriter! He
> > >sold his business to a former apprentice, Russ Denny.
> > >David Feldman
> > >Vancouver, WA
> > >--- Larry Hakim <larryhakim@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > This is driving me crazy: I recall reading about a
> > > > British framebuilder in
> > > > the late 70's whose frames were becoming popular
> > > > here. This builder's design
> > > > featured stiff geometries, beefy stays and a unique
> > > > semi-fastback seat stay
> > > > arrangement. The lugwork was very simple and the
> > > > builder's name was
> > > > similarly non-fancy--just plain block letters. He
> > > > wasn't very old and I seem
> > > > to recall American connection--perhaps he moved to
> > > > the U.S. and resumed
> > > > building here, but I don't really recognize his name
> > > > on the
> > > > classicrendezvous site. What in the world is the
> > > > name of this framebuilder
> > > > I'm trying to remember?
> > > >
> > > > Larry Hakim
> > > > Oxford, MS
> > > >
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