Re: Re: [CR]are some of us nuts? LONG!

(Example: Framebuilders)

Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 18:33:00 +0200
From: "renaissance-cycles" <info@renaissance-cycles.com>
Subject: Re: Re: [CR]are some of us nuts? LONG!
To: renaissance-cycles <info@renaissance-cycles.com>, sg8357@getcoactive.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
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BTW:..................If into collecting late 70s to early 80s stuff, less than that of MASI and a few other Marques, finding this stuff here is like trying to collect happy meal toys..........Now I know some of these Dutch and German LIST MEMEBERS must be saying where??..............Well I've been hooked up with these places since 85 when most considered this stuff as junk.....I just scored an early 70s Colnago with full early NR gear along with a 2 bolt SR seat post $ 140.-.

Did I buy it because I want to own it, yes.........Collecting maybe?

This is the period that I like, so to say it's no fun when wanting to collect. For myself that is.

BC
Baron C...............And the gang!!
Renaissance cycles,
Eindhoven Holland.


----- Original Message -----
From: renaissance-cycles
To: sg8357@getcoactive.com
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [CR]are some of us nuts? LONG!



> Used....to....collect....up....until....the....fire. But still collecting a
> little, little bit.
>
> Maybe when I'm back in the States where it's somewhat harder to find
> certain items, it's no fun when this guy says hey I have some stuff in the
> garage.
> Slip in there, kick open a box and there's 60 pairs of Campagnolo 3 piece
> hubs staring you in the face. A guy pulls out a box and say's what about
> these Brooks key hole saddles, yanks out another box and there's narrow
> railed
> Brooks Campagnolo saddles, all this takes away the pop of collecting.
> I guess you can call it collecting if I put one aside and sell off the rest.
>
> Then there's the guy that says he has loads of Campagnolo steel cottered
> BBs, I don't think you want these because there no cranksets available.
> What about the crazy couple in Southern France, you want a Legnano frameset!
> There have your choice 50 plus 531 framesets to choose
> from...............I've been
> wanting an 70s / 80s model for some time, now I was looking at 50 pieces.
>
> I got a nice little stash of collectables.....Here's a small but somewhat
> collectable item
> 1st Generation Campagnolo retrofriction gear levers...With the older
> recessed lettering.
> One of those items not listed in any of the catalogs. At least I'm not able
> to find it listed
> anywhere with Campagnolo. I would think it would have been listed
> between.....n.18
> .........and........18 bis........But it's not?....Maybe I'll list it on
> ebay with a high reserve
> only to see what it might be worth? It's a crap shoot.
>
> The business of investing and selling has made it easy for me to collect the
> things I desire
> to collect.
>
> BC
> Baron C.................And the gang!!
> Renaissance cycles,
> Eindhoven Holland......Just scored and replaced an early 70 Colnago that was
> lost in the fire.
> Collecting again..........I wouldn't call it that............But then again
> maybe.
>
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Goldsmith" <sg8357@getcoactive.com>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 4:16 PM
> Subject: Fw: Re: [CR]are some of us nuts? LONG!
>
>
> > > Subject: Fw: Re: [CR]are some of us nuts? LONG!
> > > Here are some guideline conditions:
> > >
> > > Investors = People who buy to sell.
> > >
> > > Collectors = People who buy to own.
> > >
> > > Investors rarely think of themselves as collectors.
> > >
> > > Collectors almost always think they are investors. [Hoping
> > > at some point; they will get economic reward for their stuff.]
> > >
> > > Many of us float between collecting and investing depending
> > > on the circumstances we are presented.
> > >
> > > There will always be a market for quality original condition goods,
> > > however prices may vary to the extremes.
> > >
> > > Nick Zatezalo
> > > Atlanta,Ga
> >
> >
> > Bikes are different from some other collectibles, I can ride a chrome
> > Paramount everyday. Take the 1K$ Jerry spent on the Paramount into a bike
> > shop and see what is available. Which would you rather ride and have
> around
> > the
> > the house to look at ? A Trek 1500 or the chrome Paramount ?
> > Bikes are interesting in that the design hasn't changed much, what was a
> > good
> > ride in 1959 is still a good ride. To be mercenary, which do you think is
> > better value for money,$3k for a Pegoretti or a Weigle ?
> >
> >
> > Scott Goldsmith
> > Milford, Ohio