Re: [CR]bike of death

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To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR]bike of death
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:06:14 +0000


Hi Tom:

1) The BB spindle bolts make no nevermind, steel vs. aluminum - it's the early Ti spindle that breaks, not the bolts.

2) The CLB brake cables are steel. As in not aluminum. The housings are aluminum.

3) No apology required regarding the Record arms and the Ergals - both of those items can fail catastrophically under the right circumstances,as can many other components....(Many, many US-made CNC'd crank arms will fail 20 times more frequently than the Campys, though).

4) What alloy chain that Everest made? Do you mean the steel one with the silver-colored sideplates with the rectangular cutouts? A very nice steel chain....

Regards,

Greg Parker Dexter, Michigan

P.S.:

The Ergals on my 753 Raleigh are 24-hole, had 15/17/15 spokes initially, switched to 15-gauge DT SS after that didn't work so well (couldn't keep the Robergels from loosening up due to the severe loading/unloading that occured each revolution of the wheel).

P.P.S.:

Anyone have any NOS 24-hole Ergals FS? I have hubs, and BC has some 24-hole Martanos, which are way cool, but Ergals are awesomer....

Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 07:43:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Dalton <tom_s_dalton@yahoo.com> To: gillies@cs.ubc.ca, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]bike of death

BB: 1st generation Super Record w/ Arnold alloy bolts

Ft der: The reverse-action Suntour model with alloy cage (NO IDEA of the name)

Brakes should be Modolo Kronos... but maybe somehow add the DC extension levers

Freewheel: Early Regina CX fw's had a habit of exploding, but the ALL ALLOY Maillard is pretty darn scary. Alloy ball races and everything else except, balls, pawls amd outer cone.

CLB alloy cables!

Plastic Ofmega rear der

Anyone know a good sure-to-fail early alloy railed saddle?

Dare I say Record crank arms? Surely something is worse.

Not sure which is the "brakenest" bar, but drilling it for aero cables is always a "plus"

The old Hi-E skewers always seemed scary, but I don't know if they were an actual hazard.

How about the alloy chain that Everest made? They must have been interesting.

Make the Ergals 28-hole and use 16 gauge spokes.... or just use any Hoshi spokes

I like this idea, and I hope others will contribute. I had trouble with Hoshi spokes, for example, but surely something was even worse, back in the 60's.

Apologies to the esteemed Mr. Parker for the Record crank and Ergal slams...

Tom Dalton

Bethlehem, PA