Re: [CR]How to tell if Columbus Record or KL

Example: Framebuilders

Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 16:20:46 -0400
Subject: Re: [CR]How to tell if Columbus Record or KL
From: Richard M Sachs <>

without the sticker you have to weigh them. if the stickers are there, they'll each weigh 21 grams more. e-RICHIE chester, ct

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Raymond Dobbins <> writes:
> Hi all. I have never seen any Columbus stickers for
> their Record and KL tubing. I have a Colnago Mexico
> Oro which is supposed to have one or the other, but it
> does not have a Columbus decal at all. I have a
> couple of other bikes that I believe were also made
> with Record or KL tubing. One is a gold-plated
> Guerciotti with no model name on it (a series of
> various countries' flags is painted on the top tube),
> and the other is a gold-plated Ciocc Mod. San
> Cristobal. Both were supposedly made for the 78 or 79
> New York bike show. Neither one of them has Columbus
> decals on them, and both are lighter than similarly
> equipped and sized SL bikes. Besides writing to the
> frame builders and hoping to get an answer, is there
> any way to know if the tubing used was Record or KL?
> I reviewed the archives but didn't find an answer.
> Ray Dobbins
> Miami, Florida
> P.S. Are there any list members in the Miami area?
> Please contact me off-list.