Odd they they would do this in 1974, some years after Carlton was acquired by Raleigh. I think the Pro and International carried the Carlton decal from the acquisition until at least the late 70's, but these cutouts seem to appear for the first time in 1974, then quickly disappear. Or maybe the cutouts were present in earlier years and I just haven't seen that many Pros "in the flesh" or at least haven't examined the bottoms of the BB shells.
email@example.com wrote: That would be, "Carlton Cycles" I presume.
Paul Raley Leonardtown MD
Jerome & Elizabeth Moos wrote:
>I'd conclude that the cutouts appeared on some, but not all, 1974 and 1975 Pros and that the catalogs, as usual, were not completely accurate. Does anyone know the significance, if any, of "CC"?
>Fredrick Yavorsky wrote:
>My 1974 Pro (built up from bare frame and fork, link to photos below) has
>the CC cutouts on the BB shell. My March 1, 1975 catalog (with retail price
>list attached) shows CC cutouts on the Team Pro ($900), Pro Track ($449) and
>Pro MK IV ($649). Pro is shown ONLY in Blue Mink/Silver.
>Catalog from 74 (but not dated) shows no CC cutout on Pro MK. IV, just on
>Track bike. Catalog shows photo of Pro in Brown/Mink but lists ONLY Blue
>Mink/Silver as the available color.
>> From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos
>> Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 09:44:25 -0700 (PDT)
>> To: marc garcia , firstname.lastname@example.org
>> Subject: Re: [CR]need parts for and help identifying a raleigh pro and paint?
>> Marc, this one is fairly easy to date, at least within a few years. It has
>> the distinctive mink blue and silver color scheme and the even more
>> distinctive Brampton fastback seatstays. This is early to mid 70's, probably
>> 1973 to 1976. I have a 1975 with this paint scheme and seatstays. If the
>> serial number indicates 1974, there is no reason to doubt that. I'd never
>> seen a Raleigh Pro with the CC BB cutouts (or any cutouts for that matter)
>> until a bike that was on eBay recently. I was rather puzzled by that one.
>> I'd have thought the cutouts weren't original except that it would seem rather
>> difficult to cut out a BB after the frame was brazed up and painted. Anyone
>> else know the story on these cutouts?
>> Jerry Moos
>> Houston, TX
>> marc garcia wrote:
>> Well I finally got my raleigh pro after an ordeal with the post office that I
>> won't go into because I'll get upset just talking about it. I bought this one
>> on ebay and I think I've mentioned it in a previous post. Here are some
>> pictures of it as I have it built up now:
>> It came to me as a frame with everything minus the wheel set, hoods, rear
>> caliper, left crank arm, and saddle. I used a wheel set I had, a 700c 7 speed
>> aero trek set with shimano 105 hubs and I have to say the bike really flys
>> with these wheels. I would like to find an original type wheel set but I may
>> use these to ride for the most part. The only flaw real flaw with this frame
>> is the rust that is on the top tube under the cable which was not pictured or
>> mentioned at all in item description. Does anyone know of a paint or paint
>> combination that can be used to touch the raleigh mink blue? It doesn't have
>> to be perfect as I can keep most it covered by the cable which I suppose is
>> I'm having trouble pinning down the date of this bike. At first I thought it
>> was a 1973 because of the serial number which is on the bottom bracket: A4994
>> But the bottom bracket does not have the CC cutouts. And the chain stays have
>> dimples as well. The derailleur has a patent date of 71, could it be a 71 or
>> is it more likely a 72? If anyone can date this bike and offer the specs for
>> it I would be eternally grateful as I would like to identify the appropriate
>> parts for this bike.
>> The only decals that came on this bike was a reynolds decal on the down tube
>> above the shifters, is this original? seems like an odd place to me. There is
>> also what seams to be the remenants, really only the outline of a reynolds
>> triangle decal at the bottom of the seat tube. I would like to find some
>> decals for this bike but would like to know which ones it would have had
>> originally. A local shop had some top tube "professional" decals in gold, but
>> I wasn't sure if these are appropriate. If anyone has decals for this bike i
>> would be interested in purchasing them or trading for them.
>> I still need some other parts for it as well that I would be willing to either
>> purchase or trade for. I need a brooks pro seat, campy pedals and clips, campy
>> brake hoods, and a wheel set. I know some of this all depends on the year of
>> the bike but I'll listen to what you have.
>> marc garcia
>> chicago IL