Marc,
Mr. Feldman beat me to it, but I was also going to say Gitane and Frejus. The Frejus should have a serial number on the left side of the seat tube just below the seat cluster. I'm guessing early 60's, but the number will help as you can reference it against:
http://www.classicrendezvous.com/
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Hope that helps!
David Bilenkey Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
> -----Original Message-----
> From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of
> David Feldman
> Sent: November 13, 2004 1:34 AM
> To: marc garcia; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]help indentify these two frames and stuff for sale
>
>
> Gitane (cobby dropouts) and the red one's a Frejus.
> David Feldman
> Vancouver, WA
> --- marc garcia <marcgarcia80@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
> >
> http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/
> >
> > there's a link to pictures of two frames I would
> > like some help identifying. The first has mix of
> > parts but what's interesting are the rear dropouts
> > which are built out of squares. I've never seen this
> > before, other than this the frame isn't that
> > intriguing.
> >
> > The second frame is what I'm really interested in. A
> > friend is offering it to me in a trade or for cash
> > but I'd like some idea of what it is before I make a descision. No
> > headbadge, no decals, no idea what the tubing is, the only
> decals on
> > it are from three local shops here in the chicago area,
> including one
> > from wastyn cycles of paramount fame. did they ever
> > sell bikes under their house name? has campy
> > derailleurs, campy bar end shifters, campy dropouts
> > and cranks. Balilla center pull brakes and look at
> > that great leather wrapping on the bars. I forgot to
> > check the threading, which I realize would offer a
> > clue to the country of origin but I figured I'd see
> > if any of you guys recognized something. I'd like to
> > come up with a fair price on this frame as well, I
> > don't want to under pay a friend.
> >
> > The same friend wants to clear out some space so he
> > is thinking about selling some of his bikes, most of
> > which are onlist, some slightly off, like a
> > beautiful super clean cannondale with all shimano
> > 105 parts. Nothing rare or spectacular but alot of
> > nice bikes. Let me know if you're interested, I can
> > give you better idea of what he has and I have some
> > pics as well.
> >
> > marc garcia
> > chicago IL