Re: [CR]Did Campagnolo even make the hoods?

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From: "Tom Martin" <tom@wilsonbike.com>
To: <marcus.e.helman@gm.com>, "CR list" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Subject: Re: [CR]Did Campagnolo even make the hoods?
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 10:03:31 -0800


Where does campy source their non metal and non 'core competency' bits? I have a few guesses: Velo in Taiwan for Record hoods. Jagwire in Taiwan for cables, ferrules, brake pads.

Where does their carbon crank come from? you might be surprised........ So many italian companies gave up on the domestic carbon production due to poor quality control and high labor and materials costs. It's not only cheaper for a handlebar or fork to be made in china, and more often than not, better made, in terms of finish as well as the actual integrity of the product.

And where are all the bike factories these days? I doubt Vincenza Italy is the epicenter of the worldwide bike industry. I could be wrong- I've never visited that part of italy, but I seem to believe that Japan, then Taiwan, and now China had/has excess production capacity in their factories. If campag is not making at least some of their OE level groups, or even certain high volume parts, outside of Italy, then they are at a huge disadvantage, and not riding the horse in the direction it's pointed in. But they've done that before: index shifting, integrated shift and brake levers, mountain bike components. You know, all that crap that everyone in this forum hates and feels destroyed their comfortable little bike cult

Tom Martin, stirring up the hornets nest in

Oakland CA


----- Original Message -----
From: marcus.e.helman@gm.com
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 9:01 AM
Subject: [CR]Did Campagnolo even make the hoods?



> It seems to me that Campagnolo is mostly a metal fabricating company.
> Isn't it likely that they had someone else make the hoods for them? If
> Campagnolo did farm the hoodmaking business out, it probably means that
> Campy can't make more even if they wanted to.
>
> This might mean that the tooling is sitting around somewhere in the
> subcontractor's warehouse, if said sub even exists anymore. It also might
> mean that the tools are long gone.
>
> Perhaps someone in Italy wants to undertake this detective project. Who
> supplies Campagnolo's rubber parts today?
>
> Fundamentally I think e-Richie is right on this one. Why should Campagnolo
> bother?
>
> Marcus Helman
> Huntington Woods, MI